I have a correction to my previous assertion that PS2 were included in that 13M number for 2001 here. PS2 and DVD-ROM drives are counted separately so that 65% calculation is incorrect. The correct number is in the chart below.
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thismeintiel said: According to this site, ~$200 was the actual average price of a DVD player in 2000. |
I'll be using this site which you cited for the AVERAGE PURCHASE PRICE of a DVD player per year. - http://www.data360.org/dsg.aspx?Data_Set_Group_Id=497
| thismeintiel said:
And if that's the reasoning, what happened in 2003 when you could get a GC and DVD player for less than $150, but the PS2 was still $180? Oh yea, the PS2 continued to dominant. Again, a $25 difference doesn't mean squat to the average consumer and isn't going to change their mind about which console they are going to get. |
You do know that the GameCube outsold the PS2 in 2004 in the region you're talking about right?
PS2 sales 2004 - 3.77M
GC sales 2004 - 4.09M (edit- I mistakenly put WW numbers, America was 2.65M ^^")
Nevertheless, 41.3% GC sales ratio between the GC + PS2 in the US for 2004 is still the best it's ratio has been in a calendar year.
| thismeintiel said:
You can keep pulling numbers out of thin air if you wish, but that won't make them true. And in 2002 you could get a DVD player for much less than $150. That was the price of a cheap player in late 2000. By 2002, you were looking at ~$75. A $25 difference isn't going to stop people from buying one console over the other. |
Below is the Average price of the PS2/GC taking into account how many months it was at "a" price during that calendar year.
AVG DVD player PURCHASE price per year via link. - http://www.data360.org/dsg.aspx?Data_Set_Group_Id=497
| Year | PS2 Price AVG | DVD Player AVG | PS2 VS DVD | GameCube AVG | GC + DVD | PS2 VS (GC + DVD) |
| 2001 | $299 | $165 | $134 more for PS2 | $199 | $364 | $65 less for PS2 |
| 2002 | $232 | $142 | $ 90 more for PS2 | $166 | $308 | $76 less for PS2 |
| 2003 | $186 | $123 | $ 63 more for PS2 | $133 | $256 | $70 less for PS2 |
| 2004 | $159 | $109 | $ 50 more for PS2 | $ 99 | $208 | $49 less for PS2 |
The PS2 was $65 cheaper than the GC + DVD in 2001,
The PS2 was $76 cheaper than the GC + DVD in 2002,
The PS2 was $70 cheaper than the GC + DVD in 2003,
The PS2 was $49 cheaper than the GC + DVD in 2004.
The GameCube was more expensive then the AVG purchase price of a DVD player in 2001, 2002 and 2003.
The following is information for US data:
| Year | PS2 Sales | DVD Player Sales | DVD + PS2 (Total) | PS2 % of Total |
| 2001 | 8.41M | 12.71M | 21.12M | 40% PS2 |
| 2002 | 11.33M | 17.09M | 28.42M | 40% PS2 |
| 2003 | 7.89M | 21.99M | 29.88M | 26% PS2 |
| 2004 | 3.77M | 20.00M | 23.77M | 16% PS2 |
| 2005 | 8.13M | 16.15M | 24.28M | 33% PS2 |
| 2006 | 5.54M | 19.79M | 25.33M | 22% PS2 |
PS2 sales peaked in 2002.
From 2001 to 2006 (DVD player + PS2) sales averaged 25.47M/year.
(DVD player + PS2) sales were steady around that 25.47M/year average even with dips and rises in PS2 sales.
The demand for TV connected DVD devices was steady.
As you can see in both 2001 and 2002 40% of total players sales were PS2s, even in spite of cheaper DVD players.
When 40% of total sales of direct to TV capable DVD players were PS2s, then people were bound to be using the DVD capabilities of those PS2s in 2001 and 2002.
