Alkibiádēs said:
By the end of this year Nintendo will have released better games on the Switch than Sony on the PS4 in a period of 5 years. |
Very few Nintendo games i like, opinion.
Don't state like fact.
Alkibiádēs said:
By the end of this year Nintendo will have released better games on the Switch than Sony on the PS4 in a period of 5 years. |
Very few Nintendo games i like, opinion.
Don't state like fact.
Mario, Pokemon Stars, SMT 5.
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I bet they will also detail their plans for online infrastructure/Switch upcoming updates (browser, Netflix, Youtube...)
160rmf said:
Who cares if it is 3rd party studios? Nintendo is still behind these collaborations, investing in those games. |
My whole point is if Nintendo corrected a past mistake. Which was, not being able to make enough games to support their systems in a good way.
Paying 3rd parties to make a game is not the same thing and that is why i don't look at those investments as a way to determine if Nintendo changed or not.
DélioPT said:
My whole point is if Nintendo corrected a past mistake. Which was, not being able to make enough games to support their systems in a good way. |
But a game is a game, whether a Nintendo or a 3rd party made it, the consumer isn't going to percieve it any differently. If Nintendo letting more 3rd party's use their IPs to output more games, it's a smart move, a move which shows they have changed for the better. Nintendo isn't some magical company that has unlimited resources and can output as many games as they want, they can only do so much.
So really Nintendo have changed on your point as they've done the only thing thay can to get more games made; get 3rd partys make them.
DélioPT said:
They dropped Wii U support around 2015, 3DS support not long after that (as pointed out by another user). How can't i question their ability to correct this specific past failure? When i don't see clear signs of that mistake being corrected i January, i'm a little skeptical. I thought "too soon? E3 will be the place". But what i get is that their focus for the Spotlight is still 2017 when didn't have to. They could have very well not said that - and let us thinking - or even said "focus on games coming 2017 and 2018".The focus on 2017 games didn't need to be ALSO on the video, but for some reason it is.Of course i believe they will show 2018 games, but i think that, at this point, this shouldn't be the case (it really didn't need to be) - where they even in the video focus on 2017 games. "Wii U days are long time over, and people are were aware of that" |
So, what's exactly problem!? Those 5 originaly games with combination of 2 Wii U ports make 1st 9 months of Switch are stronger in terms of in-house games than any previous Nintendo console, just Zelda BotW blows away complete full 1st year Wii U's lineup, dont even try to compare that with PS4 or XB1.
You can question whatever you want, but its obvious that they correct majority of past mistakes, especially in terms of games. I several times explained to you why they said "focus on 2017. games" and you have very clear example of last ND. Again, "focus on 2017. games" doesn't mean they will not show 2018. games at E3, they will definatly show some 2018. games. Again, They could not said focus on ARMS and Splatoon for last ND, but they did, and they did focus on those games but in same time they show tons of other games, and now for E3 they saying "focus on 2017. games"and they will focus on them (from obvious and reasons that totaly make sense), but they will also show 2018. games.
I dont see how point that two months after Switch launch and one month before E3 didn't show 2018. games (but they did annuced FireEmblem) has anything with Wii U!? With Wii U situation was totally reverse, because terrible sales they panicked and basically announced almost all games they had in development only two months after launch, some of those games we saw couple of years after that announcement. With Switch it's obvious they have great and effective plan, they don't need to announce all games they have in development they just need to continue good and very positive momentum. Offcourse they have 2018. games and offcourse they will show some of them in one month at E3.
Einsam_Delphin said: What makes me pretty confident in this E3 is how they're not including 3DS in the presentation like I originally expected them to (especially after 2DSXL announcement). That can only mean they must have plenty of Switch content, enough to fill what is normally filled by two separate systems. Also, I doubt something as major as a new Pokemon announcement would be done through the Treehouse, so that provides further confidence that this year's Pokemon game will be on Switch. |
Yup, because all this "focus on 2017. games" we somehow missed that they will show 3DS games just trough TreeHouse. It seems they will have lotsa Switch content for presentation.
Green098 said:
So really Nintendo have changed on your point as they've done the only thing thay can to get more games made; get 3rd partys make them. |
They've been doing that for a long time actually, for instance Minish Cap was made by Capcom and F-Zero GX was made by Sega I believe. What they've changed from last gen is primarily making games for one system instead of two, and eventually, solely for one system, though this isn't in full effect just yet, but still enough so to ensure the 1st year for Switch will have a consistent schedule unlike 3DS n Wii U had.
I'm keeping my expectations as realistic as possible here, but here's what I expect, or at least hope to see.
Super Mario Odyssey - Duh!
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - English Trailer, and release date
Pikmin 4 - Trailer and release for Autumn this year. Miyamoto said it was close to completion, so it may come sooner than we think.
Rabbids and Mario RPG - I still find the idea absurd, but it sounds real enough apparently. I don't think it'll be published by Nintendo though. It'll just be a Ubisoft game that Nintendo licensed out the characters to I think.
Two Brand New IPs, One from EPD 6 (the 1-2 Switch team) and one from EPD 7 (the Rhythm Heaven team) - This one's more of a personal hope on my part. EPD 6, headed by Kouichi Kawamoto, recently made 1-2 Switch and Miitopia, considering both were released within mere months of each-other, I expect to see something new from them at some point, My guess is some sort of music game. EPD 7, headed by Katsuya Yamano, is primarily known for the WarioWare and Rhythm Heaven series. I would like to see a new game from them as well. Perhaps Ko Takeuchi (WarioWare Character Designer) can Direct a game.
Retro's New game - Whatever it is
Fire Emblem Switch - Early 2018, Trailer, also a trailer and release date for Fire Emblem Warriors too.
Grand Finale: Metroid for Nintendo Switch - Yeah, I know it sounds like a fans wet dream, but I wouldn't expect more than a short gameplay-less teaser. I do think Metroid will make a big comeback soon though.
Don't expect Pokemon Stars (which if it were real, it would not be for the Switch, so give up that pie in the sky dream already), Zelda DLC, Virtual Console, or even online plans, those are non-announcements that can be handled in a later Nintendo Direct. This Nintendo Spotlight should mostly be just games.
Green098 said:
But a game is a game, whether a Nintendo or a 3rd party made it, the consumer isn't going to percieve it any differently. If Nintendo letting more 3rd party's use their IPs to output more games, it's a smart move, a move which shows they have changed for the better. Nintendo isn't some magical company that has unlimited resources and can output as many games as they want, they can only do so much. So really Nintendo have changed on your point as they've done the only thing thay can to get more games made; get 3rd partys make them. |
Having 3rd parties use Nintendo's IP is a whole different story.
Also, what i said above is not the only way to get more games.
As they are dropping 3DS support, they basically have one single system support. This will automatically lend to more games being out on Switch.
So, even if their resources are limited they are no longer dividing them between handheld and home console and it seems that it won't happen anytime soon too.
Therefore it is expected of them to have more than before.
MisterManGuy said: I'm keeping my expectations as realistic as possible here, but here's what I expect, or at least hope to see. Super Mario Odyssey - Duh! Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - English Trailer, and release date Pikmin 4 - Trailer and release for Autumn this year. Miyamoto said it was close to completion, so it may come sooner than we think. Rabbids and Mario RPG - I still find the idea absurd, but it sounds real enough apparently. I don't think it'll be published by Nintendo though. It'll just be a Ubisoft game that Nintendo licensed out the characters to I think. Two Brand New IPs, One from EPD 6 (the 1-2 Switch team) and one from EPD 7 (the Rhythm Heaven team) - This one's more of a personal hope on my part. EPD 6, headed by Kouichi Kawamoto, recently made 1-2 Switch and Miitopia, considering both were released within mere months of each-other, I expect to see something new from them at some point, My guess is some sort of music game. EPD 7, headed by Katsuya Yamano, is primarily known for the WarioWare and Rhythm Heaven series. I would like to see a new game from them as well. Perhaps Ko Takeuchi (WarioWare Character Designer) can Direct a game. Retro's New game - Whatever it is Fire Emblem Switch - Early 2018, Trailer, also a trailer and release date for Fire Emblem Warriors too. Grand Finale: Metroid for Nintendo Switch - Yeah, I know it sounds like a fans wet dream, but I wouldn't expect more than a short gameplay-less teaser. I do think Metroid will make a big comeback soon though. Don't expect Pokemon Stars (which if it were real, it would not be for the Switch, so give up that pie in the sky dream already), Zelda DLC, Virtual Console, or even online plans, those are non-announcements that can be handled in a later Nintendo Direct. This Nintendo Spotlight should mostly be just games. |
Well actually on the contary, if Pokemon Stars is real it's more likely to come to the Switch than 3DS.
Nintendo is only shipping 6 million 3DS units this fisical year (Up until March 2018), kind of low if they're planning to release one of the most popular franchise's in gaming on that system? Second Nintendo isn't even showcasing anything 3DS related for the Nintendo Spotlight event (you know the main part of their E3 event) I highly doubt a new 3DS Pokemon game is something you announce during a Nintendo Treehouse Live Stream. Lastly the entire 'Pokemon Stars' rumour is based on it being an HD Pokemon game which is only possible on an HD console; the 'Switch'.