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Miyamotoo on 14 May 2017
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DélioPT said:
Miyamotoo said:

Actualy 7 in-house games for 1st 9 months for now, we can easily have some other announcement at E3 for 2017. And that is definitely full support, and if you actually look how strong are those games, it's actually great support. Like I wrote, 1st 9 months of Switch are stronger in terms of in-house games than any previous Nintendo console, just Zelda BotW blows away complete full 1st year Wii U's lineup.  How much PS4 or XB1 had support from in-house games in its 1st 9 monts!? Definitely less in any case than Switch. Nintendo don't have anything more to prove, like I wrote they just need to keep momentum with more games and marketing.

1st I didnt said that 2018. will be stronger than 2018. (its hard to top Zelda BotW, MK8D, Splatoon 2 and Mario Odyssey, I think you dont realize how much strong is 2017. for Switch if we talk about in-house games), but it can be expected that 2018. will also be very strong (Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Retros game, Next Levels Game, posible new Meotrid, new Pikmin, some other Wii U ports...). Second, they will definitely show some of 2018. games. Again, focus is one thing, and its very obvius why 2017. games will be in focus (they will be relased in near future, they will have tons of infos, gameplays, all day play through TreeHouse, on stage Demo for visitors, tournaments..), but that doesnt mean we will not see 2018. games, that just means they will not have tons of infos, gameplays, all day play through TreeHouse, on stage Demo for visitors, tournaments.. Again, look how they managed last ND where they also had "focus".

And if they can get away with not revealing a 2018 game in January, the same can't or shouldn't happen at E3!? What are you talking about!? Why would they need to get away!? Because they didn't show 2018. games in January 2017. event!? Sorry, but that's clear nonsense. 

Of Course that one biggest flaws of Wii U was lack of games, and its very obvious that Switch doesn't have that problem, you have one stronger 1st party game on around every 1.5 month on Switch and some 3rd parties or Indies between, while on Wii U in 1st year you had months without any release. Second biggest problem for Wii U was lack of bigg system seller games in 1st year, Switch will have them 4 in 1st 9 months on market. What make confidence is that they started very strong with support with Switch and they will continue with that, especially if we know few other fact like that Switch will soon be only Nintendo platform they will support (actually unified platform,where you will not have divided support on handheld and home console platform), or that most of Nintendo teams are scheduled to release their new games in 2017. or 2018.

You acting like Switch does not exist, like you don't see Nintendo Switch support, like you don't see everything Nintendo are doing around Switch and how they managing Switch,like you don't see popularity and breaking record sales, and basically you just saying "look at Wii U", while its very obvious that Switch is totally different in any case than Wii U, especially in terms of 1st party support and games, sales and popularity of Switch proves that. Wii U days are long time over, and people are were aware of that, thats very obvious for everyone expect for you, you just need to open your eyes.

They dropped Wii U support around 2015, 3DS support not long after that (as pointed out by another user).
They reveal Switch showing off only 5 original in-house games and no, i repeat, no 2018 title.

How can't i question their ability to correct this specific past failure?
I'm not talking about the rest they corrected or the quality of games (you are right in what you said when comparing both line-ups).

When i don't see clear signs of that mistake being corrected i January, i'm a little skeptical. I thought "too soon? E3 will be the place". But what i get is that their focus for the Spotlight is still 2017 when didn't have to. They could have very well not said that - and let us thinking - or even said "focus on games coming 2017 and 2018".The focus on 2017 games didn't need to be ALSO on the video, but for some reason it is.Of course i believe they will show 2018 games, but i think that, at this point, this shouldn't be the case (it really didn't need to be) - where they even in the video focus on 2017 games.
And when i look at what they are not showing and not really willing to show/focus, i question them.
Is that so wrong?

"Wii U days are long time over, and people are were aware of that"
Ok. Show me the games they have announced and actually shown that are coming 2018. Show me some quote where they said that they will use E3 or any other show/presentation to "prove" that they are doing things differently.
Just don't show me PR speech saying that they will fully support Switch. Give me something concrete.

So, what's exactly problem!? Those 5 originaly games with combination of 2 Wii U ports make 1st 9 months of Switch are stronger in terms of in-house games than any previous Nintendo console, just Zelda BotW blows away complete full 1st year Wii U's lineup, dont even try to compare that with PS4 or XB1.

You can question whatever you want, but its obvious that they correct majority of past mistakes, especially in terms of games. I several times explained to you why they said "focus on 2017. games" and you have very clear example of last ND. Again, "focus on 2017. games" doesn't mean they will not show 2018. games at E3, they will definatly show some 2018. games. Again, They could not said focus on ARMS and Splatoon for last ND, but they did, and they did focus on those games but in same time they show tons of other games, and now for E3 they saying "focus on 2017. games"and they will focus on them (from obvious and reasons that totaly make sense), but they will also show 2018. games.

I dont see how point that two months after Switch launch and one month before E3 didn't show 2018. games (but they did annuced FireEmblem) has anything with Wii U!? With Wii U situation was totally reverse, because terrible sales they panicked and basically announced almost all games they had in development only two months after launch, some of those games we saw couple of years after that announcement. With Switch it's obvious they have great and effective plan, they don't need to announce all games they have in development they just need to continue good and very positive momentum. Offcourse they have 2018. games and offcourse they will show some of them in one month at E3.

 

 

Einsam_Delphin said:
What makes me pretty confident in this E3 is how they're not including 3DS in the presentation like I originally expected them to (especially after 2DSXL announcement). That can only mean they must have plenty of Switch content, enough to fill what is normally filled by two separate systems. Also, I doubt something as major as a new Pokemon announcement would be done through the Treehouse, so that provides further confidence that this year's Pokemon game will be on Switch.

Yup, because all this "focus on 2017. games" we somehow missed that they will show 3DS games just trough TreeHouse. It seems they will have lotsa Switch content for presentation.