LOL at people that said it will sell down compared to 2015 and 2016.

If Sony wants to be aggressive it needs to cut the price to 199.99 this holiday.

Still doing excellent. I still think people are being very conservative with future sales, and optimistic about PS5. Sony can easily drop a $149.99 PS4 Super Slim in 2019, along side a $249.99 PS4 Pro Slim, and a $399.99 PS4 Premium. They also have plenty of options to enter the Portable/Mobile space. I see PS4 sales continuing to increase with a decline in sales not happening until 2021. There are still a number of years before tech will be available that could be considered next gen, and not just PS4/XBO at 4K with 4K assets.

If CoD and BF2 push serious hardware, there's no reason why PS4 won't remain ahead of 2016 and 2015. Crazy part is, I don't even think this is PS4's peak year.

Nevermind

Hmm, it's possible. 360 peaked in Year 6 (PS3 in Year 5) so history is in the PS4's favour. Price drops will definitely help out too. PS4 could also make it's own trend too, I was looking at PS2 shipments which doesn't follow the same pattern as PS360. So who knows, it's even possible 2018 could be down and 2019 be the peak.

Sales are superb this year and will remain strong. but I too think 2018 is the peak. I mean the console is still retailing for $300. 2018 will have the benefit of a cheaper price. God of war, Spiderman, monster hunter, Kingdom hearts 3, detroit and many more big and small including the usual annual titles.

We should also see a cheaper psvr and ps4 pro (possibly slim) which will no doubt help.

So I think 2017 could be the biggest yet. Either way it will be extremely successful. But 2018 I'll say even bigger. The only way I can see 2019 beating it is if GTA 6 comes out that year with an even cheaper ps4 super slim.

In total, I can't see ps4 selling less then 120m. And who knows how big sales will get in various regions around the world as the price gets lower.

The only thing that is going to stop that train is the ps5

Back in early June 2017, Sony announced PS4 was at 60,4m.

That ment it had sold over 7m (by june) in 2017.

Thats like 4-5 months ago, its resonable to assume its done another 2m in that time frame.

So its not "just" vgchart numbers.

Holy fudge you guys are optimistic about the PS4.

If it does 19m this year, and more next (2018), and even more than one after (2019).....

What are you guys expecting?

113m+ by the time its jan 2020?..... and where does PS4 lifetime go then? like 130-140m?

"In total, I can't see ps4 selling less then 120m."

I agree, if 2018 is the peak, it goes over 120m lifetime.

Bold: I think that would be pretty unlikely...more of just a fun thought experiment.

Realistically I think it will pass 100M sometime in 2019. Sony's current prediction for April 2018 shipments is 78 million, assuming they ship 18 million in 2017. If that remains flat in 2018 then you'll get 96M in April 2019, a slight decline would still mean the PS4 should pass 100M sometime in 2019. What happens after is not so clear, will Sony keep the PS4 floating on the market or gradually replace it with the PS5?

I'm not too sure on lifetime figures for each of those scenarios right now...

 My prediction for PS4's lifetime is 130 million, and I stand by that. I'm aware that if PS4 sells 20+ million in 2018, there's no way it'll sell more that in 2019, but I also believe PS4 will still put up decent numbers even after PS5 releases, especially Pro has dropped in price and becomes the base PS4 hardware.