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Which did you enjoy more?

Breath of the Wild 402 32.74%
 
Horizon: Zero Dawn 377 30.70%
 
I haven't played both yet/Unsure 286 23.29%
 
See Results 163 13.27%
 
Total:1,228
TheBlackNaruto said:
wolflink said:

1. transcendency: In the near future there will be more games that will adopt BOTW:

mechanics (easy to understand rpg,  horse riding)

style (Freedom, do whatever you want, get lost)

concept (no obstacules, verticality, music)

2. Horizon is the best looking game right now (consoles)

Yet, gamers are getting tired of that graphic nonesense. You can read sentenses like: The gap is closing. Photorealism is almost here. All the games looks the same (brown and yellow).

My conclusion is supported by the number of articules, videos, and comparisons trying to get clicks (money); there are a small number, compared for example with GTAV ps3 vs GTAV ps4.vs GTAV ps4pro

 

3. Sales point. It was to give deepness to the thread title.

1. How do you know there will be more games that adopt BoTW? And none of your points say anything about BoTW surpassing HZD in TRANSCENDENCY.

Mechanics? So there have not been easy to understand RPGs before? Or there haven't been anyg  mes with horse back riding? Come on now you can do better than that.

Style? Freedom wouldn't work with a lot of games because of their style, and there is nothing wrong with that. Being able to get lost, go where you want and do what you want does not work for every game. Glad it worked for BoTW though!

Concept? What do you mean when you say no obstacles? Is that just another way of saying being able to go whever you want? And if so why would you add it as if it was another point? Verticality....same thing as freedom so why add it again? Music? Come on now so more games are going to adopt the muisc of BoTW....that seems to be a bit of a stretch. There are plenty of games with amazing music and have been for a while now. So what is so special about the music of Zelda that other games will "adopt" it?

2. Graphics.....yes HZD currently is the best looking game on consoles right now. So it has a leg up in that department. You say gamers are getting tired of the graphics nonsense yet they still request it. Hence the reason they still care about it. Yet you said in the end no one cared so that was false. Like you say there are all these atricles about how people are fed up with graphics there are just as many if not more about how people want to see more and about how devs are pushing the envelope. So yes....they still matter....

3. Sales...no your statement did NOTHING to deepen the thread title at all. Because guess what NO ONE here said sales were equated to quality so againw hat was the random point of bringing it up? The thread title clearly states surprise at the fact that HZD outpaced Zelda FW WW which was indeed surprising considering how MANY thought HZD had no chance at all against BoTW let alone a chance at selling as much as it did in 2 weeks LT.

So again the only FACT that you made so far is that Zelda had a better META. Look man I have NO idea why you are so strung up on this HZD/BoTW battle. You take quick jabs with no real context then disapper. You seem to post about the battle quite often. Like a general in a WW or something lol. Then go in threads like "It is over HZD fans give up BoTW is the best game EVVVVVAAAA!!!!" that is how your post come off and pretty much what they say with just different wording. Look both BoTW and HZD are both great games. They both have strengths and weaknesses. Some things one does better than the other and vice versa. Some people will prefer BoTW others will prefer HZD and guess what there is nothing wrong with that. The lucky people will get to play both amazing games like I will! So come on dude you can chill backa little lol. 

Transcendency: Just let the time give reason where its deserved. 

Graphics: Your are a Gamer who cares. I am a gamer who doesnt give a shit about it.

Now, I believe you have "create a thread " priviliges, why dont you help me and make one thread about Graphics.???? Not Horizon vs Zelda, graphics in general: Consoles, PC, smarthdevices.

Quality: Ok i will be more clear Gameplay Quality........Look at the recent posted videos.

 

Again man. i know this is a sales page, but i really dont see the point to make a thread only to say that Horizon sales were better than zelda ones on FWeek.

The existence of the thread in the first place is to mock.

 

So i am mocking back. 

 

BTW i have the 2 games in my library.



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deskpro2k3 said:
Alkibiádēs said:

I think it's obvious to most people why Zelda is a level above Horizon: Zero Dawn. 

That's nice and all like cutting trees and other stuff, but who wants to go retrieve an arrow after shooting it. It's just not practical. Just saying.

It is Realistic. And you can  save some rupees.

BTW you can kill an enemy from that distance. With that arrow.



deskpro2k3 said:
Alkibiádēs said:

I think it's obvious to most people why Zelda is a level above Horizon: Zero Dawn. 

That's nice and all like cutting trees and other stuff, but who wants to go retrieve an arrow after shooting it.

I do. I don't regularly fire my arrows very far away from me and my arrows are usually landing in or near my planned path anyways.

deskpro2k3 said:

It's just not practical. Just saying.

Options. You have the OPTION to pick up your arrows if you so wish. If you don't want to then don't.



wolflink said:
TheBlackNaruto said:

1. How do you know there will be more games that adopt BoTW? And none of your points say anything about BoTW surpassing HZD in TRANSCENDENCY.

Mechanics? So there have not been easy to understand RPGs before? Or there haven't been anyg  mes with horse back riding? Come on now you can do better than that.

Style? Freedom wouldn't work with a lot of games because of their style, and there is nothing wrong with that. Being able to get lost, go where you want and do what you want does not work for every game. Glad it worked for BoTW though!

Concept? What do you mean when you say no obstacles? Is that just another way of saying being able to go whever you want? And if so why would you add it as if it was another point? Verticality....same thing as freedom so why add it again? Music? Come on now so more games are going to adopt the muisc of BoTW....that seems to be a bit of a stretch. There are plenty of games with amazing music and have been for a while now. So what is so special about the music of Zelda that other games will "adopt" it?

2. Graphics.....yes HZD currently is the best looking game on consoles right now. So it has a leg up in that department. You say gamers are getting tired of the graphics nonsense yet they still request it. Hence the reason they still care about it. Yet you said in the end no one cared so that was false. Like you say there are all these atricles about how people are fed up with graphics there are just as many if not more about how people want to see more and about how devs are pushing the envelope. So yes....they still matter....

3. Sales...no your statement did NOTHING to deepen the thread title at all. Because guess what NO ONE here said sales were equated to quality so againw hat was the random point of bringing it up? The thread title clearly states surprise at the fact that HZD outpaced Zelda FW WW which was indeed surprising considering how MANY thought HZD had no chance at all against BoTW let alone a chance at selling as much as it did in 2 weeks LT.

So again the only FACT that you made so far is that Zelda had a better META. Look man I have NO idea why you are so strung up on this HZD/BoTW battle. You take quick jabs with no real context then disapper. You seem to post about the battle quite often. Like a general in a WW or something lol. Then go in threads like "It is over HZD fans give up BoTW is the best game EVVVVVAAAA!!!!" that is how your post come off and pretty much what they say with just different wording. Look both BoTW and HZD are both great games. They both have strengths and weaknesses. Some things one does better than the other and vice versa. Some people will prefer BoTW others will prefer HZD and guess what there is nothing wrong with that. The lucky people will get to play both amazing games like I will! So come on dude you can chill backa little lol. 

Transcendency: Just let the time give reason where its deserved. 

Graphics: Your are a Gamer who cares. I am a gamer who doesnt give a shit about it.

Now, I believe you have "create a thread " priviliges, why dont you help me and make one thread about Graphics.???? Not Horizon vs Zelda, graphics in general: Consoles, PC, smarthdevices.

Quality: Ok i will be more clear Gameplay Quality........Look at the recent posted videos.

 

Again man. i know this is a sales page, but i really dont see the point to make a thread only to say that Horizon sales were better than zelda ones on FWeek.

The existence of the thread in the first place is to mock.

 

So i am mocking back. 

 

BTW i have the 2 games in my library.

Okay that is fair for Transcendency I can go with that.

Anyone who says they don't care about graphics is lying to themselves to be honest when talking about console gaming. They play a major role even in BoTW because without those graphics a lot of things it does it would not be able to do. Graphics are more than just being pretty and shiny.

There are plenty of threads about Grahpics already heck CGI-QUALITY does one every year. So you want another one?

Again where was there a mock in the OP or thread title? So being surprised that a brand new IP from a developer that has only reallly done FPS shooter games beating a huge franchise like Zelda is mocking really? How? And because you assumed it was mocking your thought was wellni am going to mock back? Okay....to each his/her own I guess.



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TheBlackNaruto said:
wolflink said:

 

Again where was there a mock in the OP or thread title? So being surprised that a brand new IP from a developer that has only reallly done FPS shooter games beating a huge franchise like Zelda is mocking really? How? And because you assumed it was mocking your thought was wellni am going to mock back? Okay....to each his/her own I guess.

  Maybe it's not mocking but definitely is playing with data here, i don't know if people has short memory or what but it's pretty easy, just go to the vgcharts page and check EVERY single zelda game and it's first month numbers, Zelda was never a front loaded franchise as people are painting it to be here, it always had decent but humble numbers compared to other nintendo franchises, just look at the npd numbers, it sold 900k on switch during an entire month, it's a record within zelda sales but if you compare to other franchises from nintendo it's not even an impressive number 

   What makes zelda selling good is it's legs, so yeah, taking a game that was never front loaded and on a console supply constrained isn't a good comparison, maybe in a year we'll have the larger picture but using zelda to praise horizon sales is just...a better comparison to horizon would be ghost recon but when we compare a REAL front loaded franchise both horizon and zelda sales looks mediocre compared to it.



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wolflink said:
deskpro2k3 said:

That's nice and all like cutting trees and other stuff, but who wants to go retrieve an arrow after shooting it. It's just not practical. Just saying.

It is Realistic. And you can  save some rupees.

BTW you can kill an enemy from that distance. With that arrow.

Whoa. Uh, no it isn't. Most of those arrows would break. 



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wolflink said:
TheBlackNaruto said:

1. How do you know there will be more games that adopt BoTW? And none of your points say anything about BoTW surpassing HZD in TRANSCENDENCY.

Mechanics? So there have not been easy to understand RPGs before? Or there haven't been anyg  mes with horse back riding? Come on now you can do better than that.

Style? Freedom wouldn't work with a lot of games because of their style, and there is nothing wrong with that. Being able to get lost, go where you want and do what you want does not work for every game. Glad it worked for BoTW though!

Concept? What do you mean when you say no obstacles? Is that just another way of saying being able to go whever you want? And if so why would you add it as if it was another point? Verticality....same thing as freedom so why add it again? Music? Come on now so more games are going to adopt the muisc of BoTW....that seems to be a bit of a stretch. There are plenty of games with amazing music and have been for a while now. So what is so special about the music of Zelda that other games will "adopt" it?

2. Graphics.....yes HZD currently is the best looking game on consoles right now. So it has a leg up in that department. You say gamers are getting tired of the graphics nonsense yet they still request it. Hence the reason they still care about it. Yet you said in the end no one cared so that was false. Like you say there are all these atricles about how people are fed up with graphics there are just as many if not more about how people want to see more and about how devs are pushing the envelope. So yes....they still matter....

3. Sales...no your statement did NOTHING to deepen the thread title at all. Because guess what NO ONE here said sales were equated to quality so againw hat was the random point of bringing it up? The thread title clearly states surprise at the fact that HZD outpaced Zelda FW WW which was indeed surprising considering how MANY thought HZD had no chance at all against BoTW let alone a chance at selling as much as it did in 2 weeks LT.

So again the only FACT that you made so far is that Zelda had a better META. Look man I have NO idea why you are so strung up on this HZD/BoTW battle. You take quick jabs with no real context then disapper. You seem to post about the battle quite often. Like a general in a WW or something lol. Then go in threads like "It is over HZD fans give up BoTW is the best game EVVVVVAAAA!!!!" that is how your post come off and pretty much what they say with just different wording. Look both BoTW and HZD are both great games. They both have strengths and weaknesses. Some things one does better than the other and vice versa. Some people will prefer BoTW others will prefer HZD and guess what there is nothing wrong with that. The lucky people will get to play both amazing games like I will! So come on dude you can chill backa little lol. 

Transcendency: Just let the time give reason where its deserved. 

Graphics: Your are a Gamer who cares. I am a gamer who doesnt give a shit about it.

Now, I believe you have "create a thread " priviliges, why dont you help me and make one thread about Graphics.???? Not Horizon vs Zelda, graphics in general: Consoles, PC, smarthdevices.

Quality: Ok i will be more clear Gameplay Quality........Look at the recent posted videos.

 

Again man. i know this is a sales page, but i really dont see the point to make a thread only to say that Horizon sales were better than zelda ones on FWeek.

The existence of the thread in the first place is to mock.


So i am mocking back. 

 

BTW i have the 2 games in my library.

Oh hey, look at that. Someone I don't know and have never directly talked to claiming to know the exact reason I made this thread. 

 

You're right, I clearly opened this thread to mock a game that I loved. A game that entranced me and bamboozled me into doing all 120 shrines and just under 500 Korok Seeds. All the memories, all the armor, etc etc. I'm here to mock that game in favor of a game that I have literally never touched. A game that I've never expressed anything more than a passing interest in. A game that I've said repeatedly doesn't interest me as much as Breath of the Wild  in the past, on these forums. 

 

If you want to pretend you know everything about Horizon and BotW, fine. But don't pretend to know why I made this thread, especially when literally every piece of evidence points elsewhere. I made this thread literally out of disbelief, because I was certain Zelda would beat Horizon on its first week due to the Switch and it's fucking Zelda. 



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Azuren said:
wolflink said:

It is Realistic. And you can  save some rupees.

BTW you can kill an enemy from that distance. With that arrow.

Whoa. Uh, no it isn't. Most of those arrows would break. 

Most of them? You kidding? Arrows are more durable than you think. Only the ones directly hitting hard surfaces, like rocks or walls, would be likely to break. Collecting and reusing arrows is common in archery.



StarDoor said:
Azuren said:

Whoa. Uh, no it isn't. Most of those arrows would break. 

Most of them? You kidding? Arrows are more durable than you think. Only the ones directly hitting hard surfaces, like rocks or walls, would be likely to break. Collecting and reusing arrows is common in archery.

Shitty wooden arrows? You'd be lucky not to lose the arrowhead. And while you can use most arrows twice, the odds of breakage significantly increases with each use. 



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