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irstupid said:
potato_hamster said:

Any other silly arguments that have nothing to do with what I said? I know in Europe and other places, Nintendo products don't come with charge cords. That's a shitty practice, but what does that have to do with the obviousness that the Switch was designed primarily as a handheld?

Your argument is that since the Switch didn't come with a way to charge the joycons or play while docked and charging out of the box then it was meant to be a handheld.

Thus following that argument, the 3DS that didn't' come with a charger were never meant to be charged. They were meant to be thrown away after depletion.

You completely misrepresented my argument. My argument is since the Switch didn't come with a way to charge the joycons or play while docked and charging out of the box, this is one of the reasons why it was designed primarily as a handheld.

But please, go on with displaying how terrible you are at reading comprehension.



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potato_hamster said:
zorg1000 said:

Nobody said it doesnt affect you, nobody cares that it affects you, that has nothing to do with the convo.

The reason you gave for it being a handheld makes no damn sense whatsoever or in other words got debunked.

Not being able to charge while playing has nothing to do with a device being a console, portable or hybrid.

Is this like a generational thing where people think they can just change the definition of words at their leisure? If I'm not mistaken Zorg, you have like 3 kids, which means you're probably around my age, and definitely means you should know better.

Who said anything about it "affecting me" until you brought it up. Not being able to charge while playing is actually evidence that indicates that Nintendo designed the Switch primarily as a handheld. Sure, alone, it's not very strong evidence at all, but nowhere did I say that this alone proves it.

Tell me, if the Switch shipped with a pro controller instead of a pair of joycons, meaning out of the box, it could not be used as a handheld, do you think that would change how Nintendo is conveying to the customer how the Switch is intended to be used? A simple yes or no answer is all that is needed.

What words am i changing the meaning of? This is what you said in your last post

 

"You just think it's a non-issue because it's never been an issue for you."

Arent something affecting you and something being an issue pretty much the same thing? Seems like you are arguing semantics.

 

Those are not at all the same thing so im not going to give you a yes or no answer for that. If a 100% dedicated home console has the same issue than it is illogical to use that same issue to argue that something is a handheld.

 

Also im actually quite a bit younger than you, only 26, my wife and i wanted kids young.



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zorg1000 said:
potato_hamster said:

Is this like a generational thing where people think they can just change the definition of words at their leisure? If I'm not mistaken Zorg, you have like 3 kids, which means you're probably around my age, and definitely means you should know better.

Who said anything about it "affecting me" until you brought it up. Not being able to charge while playing is actually evidence that indicates that Nintendo designed the Switch primarily as a handheld. Sure, alone, it's not very strong evidence at all, but nowhere did I say that this alone proves it.

Tell me, if the Switch shipped with a pro controller instead of a pair of joycons, meaning out of the box, it could not be used as a handheld, do you think that would change how Nintendo is conveying to the customer how the Switch is intended to be used? A simple yes or no answer is all that is needed.

What words am i changing the meaning of? This is what you said in your last post

 

"You just think it's a non-issue because it's never been an issue for you."

Arent something affecting you and something being an issue pretty much the same thing? Seems like you are arguing semantics.

 

Those are not at all the same thing so im not going to give you a yes or no answer for that. If a 100% dedicated home console has the same issue than it is illogical to use that same issue to argue that something is a handheld.

 

Also im actually quite a bit younger than you, only 26, my wife and i wanted kids young.

You're changing the meaning of "debunk".

I never even said it was an issue for me (it isn't). I said it bothered me (it doesn't). All I said was the situation I faced points to a clear priority in the design and development of the Switch towards it being primarily a handheld. But I do apologize for a poor choice of words there.

Ohh, you think the age in my profile is accurate? You're younger than me but not by as much as you think. My first memories of gaming were playing Super Mario Brothers and Master Blaster on the NES.

P.S. I don't know how you manage with three kids. My wife and I are having a hard enough time with our first. Props to you.

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potato_hamster said:
zorg1000 said:

What words am i changing the meaning of? This is what you said in your last post

 

"You just think it's a non-issue because it's never been an issue for you."

Arent something affecting you and something being an issue pretty much the same thing? Seems like you are arguing semantics.

 

Those are not at all the same thing so im not going to give you a yes or no answer for that. If a 100% dedicated home console has the same issue than it is illogical to use that same issue to argue that something is a handheld.

 

Also im actually quite a bit younger than you, only 26, my wife and i wanted kids young.

You're changing the meaning of "debunk".

I never even said it was an issue for me (it isn't). I said it bothered me (it doesn't). All I said was the situation I faced points to a clear priority in the design and development of the Switch towards it being primarily a handheld. But I do apologize for a poor choice of words there.

Ohh, you think the age in my profile is accurate? You're younger than me but not by as much as you think. My first memories of gaming were playing Super Mario Brothers and Master Blaster on the NES.

P.S. I don't know how you manage with three kids. My wife and I are having a hard enough time with our first. Props to you.

But that particular choice doesnt point to it being primarily a handheld. Xbox One is proof that such a choice has absolutely nothing to do with the "form factor" of the device since it is a 100% home console and has the same issue. The argument holds no weight.

 

And ya i assumed your profile age was accurate. But yeah its quite difficult lol they are about to be 1, 3 & 5 so definitely a handful. Im lucky that i make enough so my wife can be a stay at home mom. i dont know how she does it, i would go insane lol.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

zorg1000 said:
potato_hamster said:

You're changing the meaning of "debunk".

I never even said it was an issue for me (it isn't). I said it bothered me (it doesn't). All I said was the situation I faced points to a clear priority in the design and development of the Switch towards it being primarily a handheld. But I do apologize for a poor choice of words there.

Ohh, you think the age in my profile is accurate? You're younger than me but not by as much as you think. My first memories of gaming were playing Super Mario Brothers and Master Blaster on the NES.

P.S. I don't know how you manage with three kids. My wife and I are having a hard enough time with our first. Props to you.

But that particular choice doesnt point to it being primarily a handheld. Xbox One is proof that such a choice has absolutely nothing to do with the "form factor" of the device since it is a 100% home console and has the same issue. The argument holds no weight.

 

And ya i assumed your profile age was accurate. But yeah its quite difficult lol they are about to be 1, 3 & 5 so definitely a handful. Im lucky that i make enough so my wife can be a stay at home mom. i dont know how she does it, i would go insane lol.

3 kids with stay at home mom... jesus christ.... you earn at least like 200k a year?

 



 

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aikohualda said:
zorg1000 said:

But that particular choice doesnt point to it being primarily a handheld. Xbox One is proof that such a choice has absolutely nothing to do with the "form factor" of the device since it is a 100% home console and has the same issue. The argument holds no weight.

 

And ya i assumed your profile age was accurate. But yeah its quite difficult lol they are about to be 1, 3 & 5 so definitely a handful. Im lucky that i make enough so my wife can be a stay at home mom. i dont know how she does it, i would go insane lol.

3 kids with stay at home mom... jesus christ.... you earn at least like 200k a year?

 

Haha not even half that, idk i guess we just do a good job at living within our means.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

zorg1000 said:
aikohualda said:

3 kids with stay at home mom... jesus christ.... you earn at least like 200k a year?

 

Haha not even half that, idk i guess we just do a good job at living within our means.

that makes me feel bad about managing money tbh 



 

Weird. I typed confirmation bias into wikipedia, and I got redirected here...



aikohualda said:
zorg1000 said:

Haha not even half that, idk i guess we just do a good job at living within our means.

that makes me feel bad about managing money tbh 

Well im in a construction union that pays 100% of my entire families medical insurance/expenses and has a really great pension plan.

If i had to pay for my medical insurance & retirement savings than we wouldnt be nearly as well off.

 

And maybe you live in an area that is more expensive than i do.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

potato_hamster said:

You're changing the meaning of "debunk".

I never even said it was an issue for me (it isn't). I said it bothered me (it doesn't). All I said was the situation I faced points to a clear priority in the design and development of the Switch towards it being primarily a handheld. But I do apologize for a poor choice of words there.

Ohh, you think the age in my profile is accurate? You're younger than me but not by as much as you think. My first memories of gaming were playing Super Mario Brothers and Master Blaster on the NES.

P.S. I don't know how you manage with three kids. My wife and I are having a hard enough time with our first. Props to you.

Price is the reason why there is not a way to charge the joy cons while docked straight out of the box. Due to the joy cons long battery life they obviously felt it was unnecessary to add the extra cost. It has nothing at all to do with it being primarily a handheld. Again as I've already stated if the joy cons had a low battery life you might have a point, but they don't, so you don't.