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Would the N64 have been more successful if it was disc based?

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Nintendo's decision to use cartridges for the N64, instead of discs, drove a lot of third parties away from the system. Those who stuck around and compressed sound and video onto certain cartridges (Like Resident Evil 2 or Battle for Naboo) didn't quite make the situation better.

Would the N64 have been better off with CD rom technology like the PlayStation and Saturn? Or would that hurt the system in the long run?

Probably not, considering the PlayStation was a monstrous success, despite most games on the system being bogged by load times.



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Well it would have gotten Final Fantasy 7 and it would be easier and cheaper to port games to, so I don't know.

Yes, without a doubt 64 would have been more successful. FFVII would have been on the system and that game changed the entire industry. The PS1, It was easier to program for, more familiar to devs who just came off the SNES, and due to how cheap CDs were and how much space you could hold, read speed wasn't really that important. All the advantages outweighed the negatives. Sure 64 games looked better than PS1 games...technically, PS1 games that used polygons just have a certain charm over the 64.

So in short, 64 would have been much more successful.

Didn't the Playstation come around because N64 refused to use CDs?

If Nintendo didn't fall behind the times they wouldn't have lost Final Fantasy most likely. Would have helped it keep third parties and get more.

Probably would have been a monster of a success.

Using a universally adopted format that could hold much more code would have been an immense advantage, I hope no one would argue against that. Higher read speed is just about the only argument in favor of cartridge at that time, but this read speed is wasted when the amount of stored info is much smaller and the need for said speed more or less goes away, so there is that.
Choosing cartridges, and mini-DVD for the Gamecube were ridiculous decisions that gained them nothing but potentially lost them a great deal.

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Bandorr said:
Didn't the Playstation come around because N64 refused to use CDs?

If Nintendo didn't fall behind the times they wouldn't have lost Final Fantasy most likely. Would have helped it keep third parties and get more.

Probably would have been a monster of a success.

No, Sony worked with Nintendo on a CD add on for the SNES. It didnt work out, so Sony just made the Playstation instead.



KLXVER said:
Bandorr said:
Didn't the Playstation come around because N64 refused to use CDs?

If Nintendo didn't fall behind the times they wouldn't have lost Final Fantasy most likely. Would have helped it keep third parties and get more.

Probably would have been a monster of a success.

No, Sony worked with Nintendo on a CD add on for the SNES. It didnt work out, so Sony just made the Playstation instead.

Ah ok. I thought it was Pre-64 not post SNES.

I think 64 would have probably still kept FF7 if they had the CD player by the time FF7 came out though.



Probably, could have gotten some more games, but it's hard to say

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KLXVER said:
Bandorr said:
Didn't the Playstation come around because N64 refused to use CDs?

If Nintendo didn't fall behind the times they wouldn't have lost Final Fantasy most likely. Would have helped it keep third parties and get more.

Probably would have been a monster of a success.

No, Sony worked with Nintendo on a CD add on for the SNES. It didnt work out, so Sony just made the Playstation instead.

Not the whole truth. SEGA of America proposed to work with Sony for Saturn. SOA sent Sony proposed specs. SEGA of Japan hated the idea and wanted to go with their own design. Sony used the specs SOA wanted. The PS1 we got is thanks to SEGA.

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As to OP. Fact is this. Even if SEGA didn't go with Sony but made a machine that compared and easy to develop for didn't fuck up with Saturnday marketing and N64 used discs. PS1 NO DOUBT would have gone the way of 3D0 and CDi. PS1 much like PS4 was a success because the competition screwed up so badly.



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Nintendo sometimes don't think really straight. While they push into one direction, they still throw stones in their path. They did so with the cartridges on N64 and did the same with these mini discs on the Gamecube.

I just don't get it why they are limiting themselfs all the damn time.

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