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So Trump has already started messing up big time relationships with Mexico

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numberwang said:
Wall will be built.

NAFTA will be gone.

Drugs will decline.

Tears will be shed.

The World will move on.

These are literally all net positives for the citizens of both countries.



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The Mexican President is a cartel puppet. Trump isn't going to let our country be fucked over any more. Get used to having a real leader.



jcmmnx said:
The Mexican President is a cartel puppet. Trump isn't going to let our country be fucked over any more. Get used to having a real leader.

A real leader you can take serious would pay for a wall he wants to exlude people he doesn't want from his country. A real leader would communicate with others on an even basis and wouldn't use their fear of his power to dictate them what to do. Because, well, that's a dictator. Such a person will get what he wants but to support such a person is pretty ugly. 

I wonder why USA just doesn't pay for that freaking wall when I hear all the time how that wall would help to reduce so many costs. I mean, if that would be the case, just build it and reduce all the costs you have because of the lack of a wall. 



Oh it's getting crazier:

Olivier KnoxVerified account
‏@OKnox
Via pool: White House's @PressSec says Trump is asking Congress to approve 20% tax on all imports from Mexico to pay for "the wall."

Matt ViserVerified account
‏@mviser
Sean Spicer tells reporters on Air Force One: The border wall will be paid for by imposing a 20 percent tax on all imports from Mexico.



 

curtisghall said:
mexico was fucking us anyways, same thing with china

 

jcmmnx said:
The Mexican President is a cartel puppet. Trump isn't going to let our country be fucked over any more. Get used to having a real leader.

5+ million jobs in the US are dependent on Mexico though.

 

" trade with Mexico creates approximately 4.9 million jobs in the United States. In other words, one out of 29 American jobs depends on preserving an economic relationship with the U.S.’s southern neighbor. Researchers came up with this 4.9 million figure by calculating three economic shifts that would likely occur if trade with Mexico ended: the number of American jobs that are involved in producing exports to Mexico, which would be lost; the number of jobs that would return to the United States to produce the previously imported goods; and the number of jobs that would disappear if the money American consumers and companies saved from buying lower-cost imports were gone."

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/12/mexico-nafta-trade/510008/

 

US can hurt itself by hurting Mexico as well.



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UltimateUnknown said:

Oh it's getting crazier:

Olivier KnoxVerified account
‏@OKnox
Via pool: White House's @PressSec says Trump is asking Congress to approve 20% tax on all imports from Mexico to pay for "the wall."

Matt ViserVerified account
‏@mviser
Sean Spicer tells reporters on Air Force One: The border wall will be paid for by imposing a 20 percent tax on all imports from Mexico.

So much for people saying it would be impossible to make Mexico pay for the wall.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

JRPGfan said:
curtisghall said:
mexico was fucking us anyways, same thing with china

 

jcmmnx said:
The Mexican President is a cartel puppet. Trump isn't going to let our country be fucked over any more. Get used to having a real leader.

5+ million jobs in the US are dependent on Mexico though.

 

" trade with Mexico creates approximately 4.9 million jobs in the United States. In other words, one out of 29 American jobs depends on preserving an economic relationship with the U.S.’s southern neighbor. Researchers came up with this 4.9 million figure by calculating three economic shifts that would likely occur if trade with Mexico ended: the number of American jobs that are involved in producing exports to Mexico, which would be lost; the number of jobs that would return to the United States to produce the previously imported goods; and the number of jobs that would disappear if the money American consumers and companies saved from buying lower-cost imports were gone."

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/12/mexico-nafta-trade/510008/

 

US can hurt itself by hurting Mexico as well.

Protectionism usually ends up damaging both sides of the bargain.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

DonFerrari said:
UltimateUnknown said:

Oh it's getting crazier:

Olivier KnoxVerified account
‏@OKnox
Via pool: White House's @PressSec says Trump is asking Congress to approve 20% tax on all imports from Mexico to pay for "the wall."

Matt ViserVerified account
‏@mviser
Sean Spicer tells reporters on Air Force One: The border wall will be paid for by imposing a 20 percent tax on all imports from Mexico.

So much for people saying it would be impossible to make Mexico pay for the wall.

I have a feeling Trump is going to wreck the american economy in the short term.

Maybe the choices he makes if drastic enough will prove okay for the US like 10-15 years down the road.

But by the time he leaves, the US economy will be worse than it is today.

The avg american will probably be poorer than it is today.



JRPGfan said:
DonFerrari said:

So much for people saying it would be impossible to make Mexico pay for the wall.

I have a feeling Trump is going to wreck the american economy in the short term.

Maybe the choices he makes if drastic enough will prove okay for the US like 10-15 years down the road.

But by the time he leaves, the US economy will be worse than it is today.

The avg american will probably be poorer than it is today.

Yes, if he instead of deregulating and detaxing the market he just goes protectionist and regulating he will probably end up fucking americans even more than what they are now.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

 

DonFerrari said:
UltimateUnknown said:

Oh it's getting crazier:

Olivier KnoxVerified account
‏@OKnox
Via pool: White House's @PressSec says Trump is asking Congress to approve 20% tax on all imports from Mexico to pay for "the wall."

Matt ViserVerified account
‏@mviser
Sean Spicer tells reporters on Air Force One: The border wall will be paid for by imposing a 20 percent tax on all imports from Mexico.

So much for people saying it would be impossible to make Mexico pay for the wall.

Mexico won't pay for the wall with a tax like this, american citizens will pay it.

If you think companies won't make the consumers pay every extra dime of tax by just increasing the price of everything to cover it, you're kidding youself. They won't make an extra tax affect their own bottom line.