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The goalposts for judging a console are:

Visual art, music, story,... 67 33.84%
 
Visual art, music, story,... 41 20.71%
 
Cutting-edge graphical power 23 11.62%
 
Just gameplay 38 19.19%
 
Just visual art, music & story 6 3.03%
 
Other 23 11.62%
 
Total:198
zorg1000 said:
Slarvax said:

No. Switch has the price of a PS4, yet the PS4 comes with a game, way over 10 times the memory, and is still much more powerful. 

When DS launched in late 2004, it had the price of a PS2, PS2 had a huge catalog of games, PS2 was way more powerful, PS2 had better multimedia functions and online service.

When the DS came out, it only had to compete against the ps2, and PSP.... Really....

 

Maybe the Xbox 360 too.... But sorry, this isn't the same market.... When families who want to buy their kid a cheap $150 device that plays cheap and easily accessible games could get a nice 1080p tablet that gives them movies and free games, popular games like angry birds and Pokemon go. U could even play Mario on it too now.... Why would Samantha buy Jimmy a $300 video game exclusive tablet that also has games $50 and up that you have to carry with you, when you could get a $150 tablet and a lot of free games? 

 

Samantha has way more options than in 2005. 



 

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Valdath said:
Pavolink said:
Nintendo games are so valuable and the best the insdustry has to offer, that they even have their own genre. How many time have we heard "I don't like Nintendo games"?

Only the best: Nintendo.

This is why the Wii U was such a huge succes.

Wii U has nintendo games -> Wii U failed -> Nintendo games have made the Wii U a flop.

Am I doing right?



 

 

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Also why would I a core gamer, get a switch when most games coming out are either on ps4 or exclusive to ps4? The only things that aren't on ps4 are the games that came out on the Wii u, that are getting rereleased on sewueled on the switch..... Nintendo gamers are probably getting the switch....



 

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outlawauron said:
zorg1000 said:

When DS launched in late 2004, it had the price of a PS2, PS2 had a huge catalog of games, PS2 was way more powerful, PS2 had better multimedia functions and online service.

The DS wasn't competing with the PS2. It was being compared to the GBA and PSP.

The Switch is competing with the PS4. They will be compared.

Switch vs PS4 is similar to DS vs PS2 as they are devices who have different form factors, different system features and different software libraries.

Sure, people will compare them but that doesnt change that they are completely different types of devices and in the grand scheme of things everything that costs money is in competition with one another.

DS had to compete with GBA, PSP, PS2 & XB just like Switch has to compete with phones, tablets, PS4 & XBO. Its reallly not that different of a situation. Switch's success will come down to whether people find it to be a compelling device regardless of how well other devices sell just like DS was successful on its own merits.



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160rmf said:
Valdath said:

This is why the Wii U was such a huge succes.

Wii U has nintendo games -> Wii U failed -> Nintendo games have made the Wii U a flop.

Am I doing right?

If Nintendo really makes the best games in the industry, wouldn't you expect their consoles to sell more than 30-40 million unless a gimmick catches fire and attracts non-gamers?



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zorg1000 said:
outlawauron said:

The DS wasn't competing with the PS2. It was being compared to the GBA and PSP.

The Switch is competing with the PS4. They will be compared.

Switch vs PS4 is similar to DS vs PS2 as they are devices who have different form factors, different system features and different software libraries.

Sure, people will compare them but that doesnt change that they are completely different types of devices and in the grand scheme of things everything that costs money is in competition with one another.

DS had to compete with GBA, PSP, PS2 & XB just like Switch has to compete with phones, tablets, PS4 & XBO. Its reallly not that different of a situation. Switch's success will come down to whether people find it to be a compelling device regardless of how well other devices sell just like DS was successful on its own merits.

The Wii U and PS4 have different form factor and system features lol. The software libraries better be shared between Switch and PS4 or it won't get much. Considering how many of the games announced for Switch are ports of games already on PS4, not sure you can make that statement. With Nintendo seemingly determined to call Switch a console, not a handheld, the DS/PS2 comparison doesn't hold water imo.



Valdath said:
160rmf said:

Wii U has nintendo games -> Wii U failed -> Nintendo games have made the Wii U a flop.

Am I doing right?

If Nintendo really makes the best games in the industry, wouldn't you expect their consoles to sell more than 30-40 million unless a gimmick catches fire and attracts non-gamers?

They are a top selling publisher.... Their games just haven't done too well to reach a large mature audience....



 

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leo-j said:
Valdath said:

If Nintendo really makes the best games in the industry, wouldn't you expect their consoles to sell more than 30-40 million unless a gimmick catches fire and attracts non-gamers?

They are a top selling publisher.... Their games just haven't done too well to reach a large mature audience....

I love their games, i mean i haven't missed a single home console nintendo gen.

I just think it's not really the time to act smug and pretend they are the best when the Wii U failed to outsell an expensive handheld that got virtually no 1st party support and only gets niche anime games an indies.



leo-j said:
Also why would I a core gamer, get a switch when most games coming out are either on ps4 or exclusive to ps4? The only things that aren't on ps4 are the games that came out on the Wii u, that are getting rereleased on sewueled on the switch..... Nintendo gamers are probably getting the switch....

What the hell does being a core gamer mean?

Do people who play all the games combined on the DS and Wii or 3DS and WiiU not consist of core gamers?

So many games on the 3DS were core experiences that require a committed game time. You can't pretend like core gamers don't game on Nintendo consoles!!!

Stop doing that.



I wonder why people do not compare the Switch to the Vita. It really shares the most with that system. I do not look at the Switch as a handheld that also happens to be portable, but the other way around.
Price: 300 Gen 1 Vita was the same (At launch)
Memory: 32 Gigs built in up to 128 gigs upgradable vs 0 (or 1 Gig Gen 2) with upgradable to 64 Gigs
The Vita was even supposed to be able to connect to the TV, but was axed prior to launch, but the port is still there on the Gen 1 Vita.
I look at the Switch as Nintendo's signal that they are done with Consoles for the most part, but want to take the console experience on the go.
Just look at the Port of Disgaea 5, it is taking the PSP/Vita's usual enhanced port on a portable slot.
I do not find 300 too much for a launching system, especially if it has games I want to play, hell the Super NES launched with 4 games, and only had 16 by the end of its first year, and few will call it a garbage system.



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