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Hynad said:

I'm not asking anything from you. If you think this deserves a moderation, go for it. If telling someone "you love this guy/game/developer/whatever" is bannable, then consider me surprised. If that's mocking, well that wasn't intended as such. If saying that a lot of people loves Rol (or should I have used the word "like"?) is insulting, he should have just come forward and say "I don't love him, you are wrong about that", and be done with it. I'd retract what I said. But he didn't, did he?

The way GNM goes about it though, his wording and way of arguing Rol's case, points to him liking him a whole lot. Putting him on a pedestal. And many of his arguments center around the fact that Rol is a greatly liked character on VGC and that it should in turn give him special privileges. 

You wouldn't be getting moderated for telling someone "you love this guy/game/developer/whatever", you'd be getting moderated for taking aim at his character with both of your posts and mocking him. Your history with GNM would go against you too. Context is key. I'd hate to give someone "special treatment" on a forum, but this just happens to be one of those times I don't think an attack deserves any real action. 

He doesn't need to come forward and say anything about his thoughts on Rol. He just called you out for making it personal, which is a more powerful and accurate statement.



                            

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Carl2291 said:
Hynad said:

I'm not asking anything from you. If you think this deserves a moderation, go for it. If telling someone "you love this guy/game/developer/whatever" is bannable, then consider me surprised. If that's mocking, well that wasn't intended as such. If saying that a lot of people loves Rol (or should I have used the word "like"?) is insulting, he should have just come forward and say "I don't love him, you are wrong about that", and be done with it. I'd retract what I said. But he didn't, did he?

The way GNM goes about it though, his wording and way of arguing Rol's case, points to him liking him a whole lot. Putting him on a pedestal. And many of his arguments center around the fact that Rol is a greatly liked character on VGC and that it should in turn give him special privileges. 

You wouldn't be getting moderated for telling someone "you love this guy/game/developer/whatever", you'd be getting moderated for taking aim at his character with both of your posts and mocking him. Your history with GNM would go against you too. Context is key. I'd hate to give someone "special treatment" on a forum, but this just happens to be one of those times I don't think an attack deserves any real action. 

He doesn't need to come forward and say anything about his thoughts on Rol. He just called you out for making it personal, which is a more powerful and accurate statement.

I don't feel it's making anything personal if someone's ability to make decisions is being hampered by something like a personal grudge or infatuation. That's simply pointing out that the decision-making process has been compromised.

 

Making it personal would be more along the lines of telling someone their opinion doesn't matter because of personal reasons, or making attacks on one's character that don't currently have anything to do with the matter at hand.



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Carl2291 said:
Hynad said:

I'm not asking anything from you. If you think this deserves a moderation, go for it. If telling someone "you love this guy/game/developer/whatever" is bannable, then consider me surprised. If that's mocking, well that wasn't intended as such. If saying that a lot of people loves Rol (or should I have used the word "like"?) is insulting, he should have just come forward and say "I don't love him, you are wrong about that", and be done with it. I'd retract what I said. But he didn't, did he?

The way GNM goes about it though, his wording and way of arguing Rol's case, points to him liking him a whole lot. Putting him on a pedestal. And many of his arguments center around the fact that Rol is a greatly liked character on VGC and that it should in turn give him special privileges. 

You wouldn't be getting moderated for telling someone "you love this guy/game/developer/whatever", you'd be getting moderated for taking aim at his character with both of your posts and mocking him. Your history with GNM would go against you too. Context is key. I'd hate to give someone "special treatment" on a forum, but this just happens to be one of those times I don't think an attack deserves any real action. 

He doesn't need to come forward and say anything about his thoughts on Rol. He just called you out for making it personal, which is a more powerful and accurate statement.

I wasn't mocking him. Is it true that he loves Rol and his contribution? Is it true that you do? Don't you guys go way back? 

Is it mocking you to point it out? Bringing it up with GNM wasn't an attack on him. He basically expressed that in his comments in the thread. It came accross as that to me, which I said. I didn't point a finger at him telling him "you love him so your view about this subject is invalid". I said that the fact that people love Rol has no bearing on the matter. Rol should behave just like the rest of us, regardless of what his fanbase thinks. GNM said that the fact he is liked and how smart he is, should somehow grant him special treatment. Nowhere did I say that loving Rol is wrong. I said that being a loved member of the community shouldn't put you above the rules. There's nothing more to it.

And yes, my first reply to him was meant as a joke. I don't think anyone should put someone else above oneself, especially when that particular someone openly admits to looking down on most everyone else on VGC. That joke was simply pointing that out to GNM using Rol's comment.



Hynad said:

I wasn't mocking him. FFS. Is it true that he loves Rol and his contribution? Is it true that YOU do?

Is it mocking you to point it out? And bringing it up with GNM wasn't an attack on him. He basically expressed that in his comments in the thread. It came accross as that to me, which I said. I didn't point a finger at him telling him "you love him so your view about this subject is invalid". I said that the fact that people love Rol has no bearing in the matter. Rol should behave just like the rest of us, regardless of what his fanbase thinks. GNM said that the fact he is liked and how smart he is, should somehow grant him special treatment. Nowhere did I say that loving Rol is wrong. I said that being a loved member of the community shouldn't put you above the rules. There's nothing more to it.

Knowing your history, specifically your history with GNM, I just don't believe you.

Regarding his posts, whatever. He's wrong that that Rol should be given special treatment because of who he is. That's not the point though. The point is that you took aim at him personally (I don't care if you think it was a joke), much like Rol did with Aeolus.



                            

Carl2291 said:
Hynad said:

I wasn't mocking him. FFS. Is it true that he loves Rol and his contribution? Is it true that YOU do?

Is it mocking you to point it out? And bringing it up with GNM wasn't an attack on him. He basically expressed that in his comments in the thread. It came accross as that to me, which I said. I didn't point a finger at him telling him "you love him so your view about this subject is invalid". I said that the fact that people love Rol has no bearing in the matter. Rol should behave just like the rest of us, regardless of what his fanbase thinks. GNM said that the fact he is liked and how smart he is, should somehow grant him special treatment. Nowhere did I say that loving Rol is wrong. I said that being a loved member of the community shouldn't put you above the rules. There's nothing more to it.

Knowing your history, specifically your history with GNM, I just don't believe you.

Regarding his posts, whatever. He's wrong that that Rol should be given special treatment because of who he is. That's not the point though. The point is that you took aim at him personally (I don't care if you think it was a joke), much like Rol did with Aeolus.

Hynad pointed out a bias.

Rol insulted someone.

 

Not really the same.



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Azuren said:

Hynad pointed out a bias.

Rol insulted someone.

Not really the same.

Thanks for the input.



                            

Carl2291 said:
Azuren said:

Hynad pointed out a bias.

Rol insulted someone.

Not really the same.

Thanks for the input.

Can't tell if you're being condescending or dismissive.



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Azuren said:
Carl2291 said:

Thanks for the input.

Can't tell if you're being condescending or dismissive.

Could also be both.



Carl2291 said:
Hynad said:

I wasn't mocking him. FFS. Is it true that he loves Rol and his contribution? Is it true that YOU do?

Is it mocking you to point it out? And bringing it up with GNM wasn't an attack on him. He basically expressed that in his comments in the thread. It came accross as that to me, which I said. I didn't point a finger at him telling him "you love him so your view about this subject is invalid". I said that the fact that people love Rol has no bearing in the matter. Rol should behave just like the rest of us, regardless of what his fanbase thinks. GNM said that the fact he is liked and how smart he is, should somehow grant him special treatment. Nowhere did I say that loving Rol is wrong. I said that being a loved member of the community shouldn't put you above the rules. There's nothing more to it.

Knowing your history, specifically your history with GNM, I just don't believe you.

Regarding his posts, whatever. He's wrong that that Rol should be given special treatment because of who he is. That's not the point though. The point is that you took aim at him personally (I don't care if you think it was a joke), much like Rol did with Aeolus.

So you are now calling me a liar. How rich.

Believe what you will, and attach whatever intentions you see fit to me and my comments. I don't care at this point.



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