I think Michael Jackson had phenomenonal talent (obviously) forged under great work ethic, but he was also mentally fraigle in a lot of ways ... like an obvious addiction to plastic surgery for one (not getting into all the other stuff). What a talent though. 

I'm sorry but posts like this just sound as whiny and entitled as the "SJWs" you "hyper sensitive to any criticism men" get.

1st off -- society changes ok. It's not 1970 or 1980 or 1880 anymore. The world you go to sleep to dies a little bit and evolves forward the next day. Change happens. Constant whining about change to me is part of the same coin.

Yes you can't say the same things without impunity today, when I was in high school I was a self admitted jock. I played sports and the banter was different then. "Stop playing like a fucking fag" for example was accepted talk. Today it's not with kids that age that I see, and you know what? I say good on them. It was stupid when it was done back then, but no guy really had the balls to step up and say it was wrong, we just all went along with it, and that isn't any better.

Also Ripley is a fictional movie character and the "kick ass" fetishization is primarily to appeal to (well) men ... lets get that clear. If you want to choose an apt example maybe try using a real person. Like Oprah Winfrey or someone. It's like saying Darth Vader is strong in the movies, so men have nothing to complain about.

I don't get it.  You went way off of the topic.  Question, do you support safe spaces?  Just answer that because I read all the back and forth and I'm unable to see your side on the matter.  Just evidence of other things not having to do with pro or con of safe space.

I don't really support the concept, but by the same token I don't agree with the notion that "free speech" means turning back the clock 30 years. Socities evolve and change, and generally for the better, yesterday wasn't so great for a lot of people. The only socities that don't change are dictatorships.

I also don't agree with the notion of "whiny men", which to me is basically like the same group of SJWs these men complain about. The irony is lost on most of them though, they're not "alpha males", they are in fact "beta males", and if you don't want to me to be politcally correct about you can say they sound me like (gulp) bitches. 

And no, having grown up playing sports I've heard things that probably would turn a lot of people green, so lol, I'm not some precious snowflake about language. I've called opponents bitch, fag, pussy, made fun of their mothers, etc. etc. to get into their heads. Some of it I regret today, some of it I don't. There was always a line though that I wouldn't cross. 

I do think kids today should be put into sports or take up hobbies like weight training and not sit around at home all day playing video games. That's what gives you a back bone, you need to experience some pain, but I don't agree with the analogy that bullying of kids should be allowed wholesale, that can go over a line pretty quick and some kids quite frankly are just not equipped to deal with relenetless bullying. 

Also I think looking at movie characters for guidance isn't really helpful, how is that not relevant to the topic? Look at real people, real high achievers who literally came from nothing, those people are usually the best guides, Oprah Winfrey, Arnold Schwarzenegger, etc. etc. 

Thank you for the clarification. I like the fact that you try to find the middle ground between left and right. 

Just a small suggestion; don't answer rants with your own rant.  Or at least state your side before the rant.