Libara said:
He's got a lot more, like Scorpio and who knows how many games in the works. I get it though, he's MS and deserves a lot more stick and scrutiny than Sony ever does. At least he has the balls to post what he believes even if he has to do exactly what he dislikes in order to remain in the competition. |
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| AngryLittleAlchemist said: Gears of War 4 sales have been more than dissapointing. The game's physical sales were only achieved because of it being massively bundled as well as a ... get this ... THIRTY FOUR DOLLAR price reduction just close to two months after release. That is TERRIBLE. It also got that reduction digitally. Rainbow Six Siege was played more than Gears of War 4 online last week, AFTER RAINBOW SIX was renewed as a 60$ title. It was also bought more digitally in that time frame. Gears of War is under performing, and as great as it is that Microsoft is trying to make the game a success story(to be fair it isn't a flop just a bit mediocre in sales), it's still not doing amazingly. |
1. It wasn't "massively bundled". It is also a lot more expensive in its bundles than the other bundles available. So if people are willing to pay that premium because Gears is included, then it seems silly to try and discredit those sales.
2. Yeah, Gears saw a price drop soon after release. It's called Black Friday. I mean... even Battlefield and CoD were on sale during BF for over 50% off. I guess those sales are utter shit as well? Also, Rainbow Six was "renewed" in a Year Two edition. You can still buy the original for less than $60 digitally. Or for $25 physical.
Do we even have any sales data for Gears 4?
| jason1637 said: Tbf Tomb Raider and Dead Rising 4 were probably deals made when Don Mattrick was head of xbox. |
I laughed hard after i read Don Mattricks name
He ruined the xbox
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LudicrousSpeed said:
1. It wasn't "massively bundled". It is also a lot more expensive in its bundles than the other bundles available. So if people are willing to pay that premium because Gears is included, then it seems silly to try and discredit those sales. 2. Yeah, Gears saw a price drop soon after release. It's called Black Friday. I mean... even Battlefield and CoD were on sale during BF for over 50% off. I guess those sales are utter shit as well? Also, Rainbow Six was "renewed" in a Year Two edition. You can still buy the original for less than $60 digitally. Or for $25 physical. Do we even have any sales data for Gears 4? |
1. Wrong, it is one of the more popular bundles and just a week or two ago it was 250$, making it just as expensive as the Battlefield 1 bundle. It only came back to 299$ recently and even then the only games bundles lower were the Battlefield 1 bundle and the Minecraft one that JUST RELEASED for 229$
2. Nope. I'm talking about the renewed edition. The Xbox One chart I was reffering to was from last week, which showed the most bought as well as the game most played that was a paid for game(i.e. no free games). It showed the Rainbow Six Siege Year Two edition. Now to be fair it is probably showing the overall game's statistics, but when you consider that A) the first version of Rainbow six to show up is the 60$ edition and B) there's a likely possibility that the majority of sales are for the 60$ version that becomes irrelevant. Either way there isn't a Rainbow Six Siege bundle, and Siege is for the most part a "niche" game compared to Gears yet it is getting more and more popular while Gears isn't.
Ya, it's called the charts from last week you could've accessed. Just look at "most played paid" games and you can see what the most popular games are. Other titles like Halo 5 were higher, which is somewhat to be expected, but Gears titles have generally been able to derail Halo titles that released years prior for at least a few months straight. Considering it was a new game on sale too ... not to good.
Actually though, thanks for pointing that out. I didn't know that Battlefield 1 was that low, shoot, would've picked it up. oh well.
But hey it's not always a numbers game, I like Gears and wish it to succeed, and digital sales probably add a lot, but I think it's under-performing quite severely for a Gears title.
Weather Phil was or wasn't responsoble for ROTR and all,, may I suggest that Microsoft is at least master of marketing. X1 is clearly inferor in performance compared to PS4 (and significantly inferior to Pro), anf X1 is about to become obsolete when Project Scorpio comes next year. Finally, on the games side PS4 has an upper hand. Still, MS manages to push good sales for X1 in USA. The RoW sales is poor though.
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
1. Wrong, it is one of the more popular bundles and just a week or two ago it was 250$, making it just as expensive as the Battlefield 1 bundle. It only came back to 299$ recently and even then the only games bundles lower were the Battlefield 1 bundle and the Minecraft one that JUST RELEASED for 229$
2. Nope. I'm talking about the renewed edition. The Xbox One chart I was reffering to was from last week, which showed the most bought as well as the game most played that was a paid for game(i.e. no free games). It showed the Rainbow Six Siege Year Two edition. Now to be fair it is probably showing the overall game's statistics, but when you consider that A) the first version of Rainbow six to show up is the 60$ edition and B) there's a likely possibility that the majority of sales are for the 60$ version that becomes irrelevant. Either way there isn't a Rainbow Six Siege bundle, and Siege is for the most part a "niche" game compared to Gears yet it is getting more and more popular while Gears isn't.
Ya, it's called the charts from last week you could've accessed. Just look at "most played paid" games and you can see what the most popular games are. Other titles like Halo 5 were higher, which is somewhat to be expected, but Gears titles have generally been able to derail Halo titles that released years prior for at least a few months straight. Considering it was a new game on sale too ... not to good.
Actually though, thanks for pointing that out. I didn't know that Battlefield 1 was that low, shoot, would've picked it up. oh well. |
1. The 1TB bundle is $300-350 at every retailer I have seen, that's the typical price range it has varied between. Never once saw it on sale for $250. You might be mistaking it for the blue Gears 500GB bundle, which is $250, but I've only ever seen that offered at the Microsoft store, if they even still offer it, so no, it still wouldn't qualify as "massively bundled". The fact of the matter is the vast majority of Gears bundles are the 1TB and the special collectors edition. More expensive than the more commonly stocked Minecraft and BF1 500GB bundles. And the Minecraft bundle has been out awhile, it didn't "JUST RELEASE". It was just put on sale. No offense, but you don't really seem to know much about this stuff you are throwing out.
2. Siege is an online shooter with a long tradition on consoles. lol @ being niche. It's not ARMA or something. Furthermore yes, it's been getting more and more popular thanks to continued free post launch support and friendly DLC, where as Gears has shitty grindy unlocks and premium cosmetic DLC. I hope Siege continues to rise and Gears continues to fall. But where one shows up on "Xbox charts" is irrelevant. Bottom line is you can buy Rainbow Six for $25 and have been able to for awhile.
By sales data I meant any sort of real data, not popularity charts. And yeah, pretty much every game has been on sale this holiday. Thats why its pointless to criticize a game because it had a sale during the holidays.
asqarkabab said:
I laughed hard after i read Don Mattricks name He ruined the xbox |
I would say damaged, but given the nice recovery it has had in the US at least it isn't ruined, currently heading for double the total sales that the Wii-U will effectively finish up with, considering the reveal and launch at the hands of Mattrick it is doing fantasticly well now.
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DialgaMarine said:
I really want to like the guy, but then he pulls something like this out of his ass and reminds me that he's nothing more than a PR stunt for MS to try and change the nasty taste that Mattrick left in people's mouths. Sometimes he seems sincere, but mostly he seems like a puppet. |
At least you're not fooled by it. I don't think it's not the right thing to do for MS, because they definitely need an image booster after the disastrous launch. But I'm not going to blindly ignore the reality of it either. PR guy who gets paid to say these things.
You know what? Never mind lol. That post of mine was too long.
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