| JRPGfan said: 499$ is my guess, when the scorpio launches. PS4pro price advantage (maybe 150$ more to get a scorpio instead), and the games lineup of the PS4.... its not gonna be easy for scorpio. |
They do? Odd.
Still cheap components then?
NobleTeam360 said:
They do? Odd. |
You should visit GS or IGN then, crazy.
Spencer: "Scorpio Isn’t Trying To Compete with High-End Rigs"
I am not surprised. Despite the fact that all of the hype and the headlines Spencer and his team have been trying to create said otherwise.
Spencer has been implying that they will go out with the Scorpio. Just wait for it, gamers! We have a really true Pro machine! I knew that at one point they had to admit they weren't "competing with end-rigs".
The true and real Scorpio reveal is bound to disappoint thanks to their half-assed reveal that was followed by a hype machine that utters statements devoid of any real information just to let us know they too have a "Pro" machine.
Seems like a change on the speech, but a good one.
And about having high end consoles... I wouldn't mind Sony and MS having 3 simultaneous consoles together (refreshed after 3 years) that you could buy for 400, 600, 1000. But I don't think they would make good profit on this model.
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
EricHiggin said:
That's like saying PS2 was selling like hot cakes (the highest selling console in history by far) so PS didn't need to make an over the top $1000 console and sell it for $599, one year after the 360 launched. If PS3 waited to launch a year later than it did, things would have been even worse for PS. PS4 has a lot of momentum yes, but that momentum is based on its direct competition which is the XB1, not Scorpio. PS5 launch, The Last Of Us Part II. Sounds like a sure fire way to sell a boat load of new consoles to me. |
Scorpio launching at 499-599 isn't going to steal no thunder from PS4. Even Pro were very small sales compared to PS4 vanila and that was during BF from a 249 vs 340. Considering X1 is doing worse than vanilla PS4 and it will be a 499 Scorpio versus a 199 X1 I think Scorpio won't be smoking hot sales. Defining a console as enthusiastic level certainly can't be accompanied with high sales expectatives.
malistix1985 said:
Gonna be interesting to see how people react, for 4 years the ps4 has been the better buy from a technical point if you want to play games on your television, if you bought a xbox you did it because you like the games better or the fact its a better media player. Either way, how will people decide when next year the xbox for the first time this gen will have a significantly better console from a technical perspective, the extra memory and much faster GDDR5X memory will make more difference then the ps4pro did. Im excited. |
We will finally take out 2 myths... First that PS4 sold better than X1 due to price (it was part on it, but after initial reception X1 undercut PS4 and still undersold, GC also undercut PS2 and undersold) or power (because Scorpio will be stronger than PS4 and PS4Pro but will probably sell lower than X1S that is weaker than the 3).
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
| LurkerJ said: Spencer: "Scorpio Isn’t Trying To Compete with High-End Rigs" |
No ones fault but your own if you ever thought MS was going to compete with high end gaming PC rigs with a console that has to be $500 or less. They have went out of their way to communicate that their own games will run in native 4k and made no promises beyond that.
They've said 6 teraflops from the start. Where are all the headlines you're referring to that suggest we're going to get something comparable to a high end gaming computer, lol.
| DonFerrari said: Scorpio launching at 499-599 isn't going to steal no thunder from PS4. Even Pro were very small sales compared to PS4 vanila and that was during BF from a 249 vs 340. Considering X1 is doing worse than vanilla PS4 and it will be a 499 Scorpio versus a 199 X1 I think Scorpio won't be smoking hot sales. Defining a console as enthusiastic level certainly can't be accompanied with high sales expectatives.
We will finally take out 2 myths... First that PS4 sold better than X1 due to price (it was part on it, but after initial reception X1 undercut PS4 and still undersold, GC also undercut PS2 and undersold) or power (because Scorpio will be stronger than PS4 and PS4Pro but will probably sell lower than X1S that is weaker than the 3). |
Just because you are stating this or calling them a myth does not make it an actual fact.
Obviously there is no real way to prove it in either way but I definitely believe The PS4 sold better because of the price mainly. And then it was just a domino effect.
As far as the power, it helped but again, it goes to the first point. Having a more powerful console for a lower price just did it.
| JRPGfan said: 499$ is my guess, when the scorpio launches. PS4pro price advantage (maybe 150$ more to get a scorpio instead), and the games lineup of the PS4.... its not gonna be easy for scorpio. |
Savior? Saved from what?
Last time I checked the Xbox One is doing pretty well... Not doing as well as the Play Station Four does not make the Xbox One a un-successful product for Microsoft (and the Xbox One owners). I believe there are way more some Sony enthusiasts seing the Xbox One in need to be saved which is kind of ironic at the end :)
I think the price of the Scorpio will be closer to 400$ than 500$ tho.
| KBG29 said: Interesting. I am still more than likely going to get the scorpio to support higher end consoles, but I was hoping they would continue with the more premium marketing. My dream is a future where we have high end consoles that can compete with or beat the best single GPU PC's on the market. A $999.99 console with a high end APU sporting a higher end CPU/GPU combo would be ideal. The fact that we have no option in the high end gaming market than PC and Windows is what I have been fighting all along. There should be no issue for Sony or Microsoft building $1000 high end consoles that only end up with maybe 5 million users. As long as they still offer $200 variations with lesser CPU/GPU power on the same architecture, then development and scaling will not be an issue. We are never going to have the optimization we saw in the PS2 and before era again. That fact that games come to so many platforms has killed that. We should now have broader platforms with power ranges from cheap to enthusiast. We won't get the same bang for our buck, but we will still have unified platforms with highly optimized OS's and unified online networks. Like I said, I am getting a Scorpik to support higher end consoles and a wider range of console products within a platform. I just hope they don't continue to hang out in this cheaper space, and they do finally give consumers an option outside of windows and pc for high end home computing. |
Microsoft should do what they did with the original Xbox. Jack the specs up so high that it competes with high end computers, then sell at a huge loss/recoup on software.
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