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I understand the feelings of Soundwave. There's always this "that's it?"-feeling that many will feel soon after when something is unveiled. It's natural.

But after all, this was what Soundwave himself predicted.

More specifically, about the graphics quality, Nintendo simply didnt have any other option. It can only be as powerful as the Tegra technology allows. It's a handheld component. It's not gonna be as powerful as Xbox One.

I see it from the flip side: why have this powerful console when Nintendo still is betrayed by many in third party? Why all the computation power when you still don't get all multiplats, and you might not even have the consumers who are so interested in multiplatforms? So you might as well make a console that technically can't be as powerful as current generation. A handheld hybrid is the perfect solution.

But the timing of this complaint is a little strange. There is Syrim from Bethesda revealed to us, a third party game from a developer that has betrayed Nintendo in the past but is now back! What more can u ask for?

It was a great testament to Nintendo strength and third party attraction that they were able to show a remastered Skyrim on their new console.



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Its too early to tell, and to be quite honest, I think you are jumping the gun here.Nintendo could very well innovate with features and with the OS.Not to mention that the games could compensate for it.And I mean, we only had a teaser trailer.Nintendo could still have some of Switch functionalities under wrap.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

S.Peelman said:
I must say I'm surprised to see you being... well I wouldn't say negative, but... not positive, about this console. I figured you would be happy much of what you said for the last year turned out true, more or less.

Anyway, yeah I do feel like: "Is this it?" Quite underwhelmed, even when I had no real expectations.

It's bittersweet. 

It's basically what I predicted, but that's from knowing how Nintendo thinks. 

On the other hand, Wii U owners really ... kinda ... got fucked hard. We paid $300-$350 for a short changed version of a system that Nintendo is basically just "remaking". And it looks like a lot of Wii U games/engines are just going to be dumped on Switch. 

And another generation of being way behind MS and Sony gamers for technology kinda sucks too, not that it's the be all/end all, but it would have been nice to see a Mario or Mario Kart or Zelda or Metroid game using PS4 level tech. 

Maybe by 2021, lol. Nintendo fans always get the short end of the stick since the GameCube days on that end. 



Nothing new? Let me just pull out that other Nintendo system that I can play home console quality games on my TV and on the bus, at the cafe, at work, and yeah there is no system like this. :L



Soundwave said:

It's bittersweet. 

It's basically what I predicted, but that's from knowing how Nintendo thinks. 

On the other hand, Wii U owners really ... kinda ... got fucked hard. We paid $300-$350 for a short changed version of a system that Nintendo is basically just "remaking". And it looks like a lot of Wii U games/engines are just going to be dumped on Switch. 

And another generation of being way behind MS and Sony gamers for technology kinda sucks too, not that it's the be all/end all, but it would have been nice to see a Mario or Mario Kart or Zelda or Metroid game using PS4 level tech. 

Maybe by 2021, lol. Nintendo fans always get the short end of the stick since the GameCube days on that end. 

I agree. Well. Congrats anyway, I guess.



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Einsam_Delphin said:
Nothing new? Let me just pull out that other Nintendo system that I can play home console quality games on my TV and on the bus, at the cafe, at work, and yeah there is no system like this. :L

"Console quality" is subjective as nothing shown looked on XB1/PS4 level let alone PS4 Pro/Scorpio. It's not 2010 anymore, PS3 and XBox 360 are not the standard bearers of "console quality" anymore. 

It basically is the Wii U concept taken to its natural conclusion ... putting the chipset inside the tablet rather than requiring it be tethered to a seperate box. This guy had it figured out, lol. 



Also there is a huge graphical leap for most Nintendo gamers and for half of Nintendo's franchises. I can't wait to see Pokemon, Kirby, Fire Emblem, Animal Crossing and so ons in HD glory!



It's what the Wii U should have been

But I don't really mind, because less gimmicks the better :p



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Soundwave said:

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm planning to buy one, hell I basically predicted this form factor over a year ago here and even was talking about Tegra for months. 

But still ... I can't help but feel like ... "that's it?". This is what was kept under secret and a "new concept" that was totally different from the Wii U (lol)? It has Mario and Splatoon and yeah that's cool, but this is basically just an amagalm of stuff Nintendo was already doing. 

The Super NES was a huge leap over the NES. The N64 likewise over SNES. Then GameCube over N64. Even Wii, while it was basically a rehashed GCN tech wise, the controller was earth shatteringly different for its time. Wii U was a full generation upgrade over the Wii with a new controller. 

Switch basically just seems like the Wii U "Take 2" ... this time done how Nintendo wanted to do it in the first place (with the chipset inside the tablet rather than requireing a seperate "console" for it, remember Nintendo even joking that they were trying to "minimize" the console as much as possible at that time?). 

There's nothing really new here. There isn't really much of a graphical leap from what I can tell either, Mario Switch looks marginally better than a Wii U game I guess, Splatoon and Mario Kart looked basically identical, Zelda looks identical, the Bethesda game is a port of a 5 year old game, NBA 2K looks like the PS3/360 version. It looks like they're going to take a lot of port dumps from the Wii U and try to sell those games all over again. 

Yeah, what Nintendo showed us was essentially everything I was hoping it wouldn't be.  It's like they just doubled down on the Wii U gamepad even though its biggest negatives was that its gimmick was too expensive and didn't add anything worthwhile.  All I wanted was a somewhat powerful Nintendo console with a cheap gimmick (because I know Nintendo can't stop themselves from 'special snowflaking' their hardware) -- hell, I'd have been happy if they had just made a Wii-HD and just doubled down on the wiimote.  Instead I get a tablet device that tries to do too much and doesn't have a defined audience outside of Nintendo fans -- just like the Wii U.



I don't think it's a matter of 'least inspired' but more so the simplest idea they've done yet. It's no motion control, touch screen or tablet touch controller. It's just... combining the 2 consoles into one. Simple, but it could be a very excellent move. Sure, they lose sales from having 2 consoles, but with 1, there's no need for weird console/portable versions like Mario Kart 7/8, Smash Bros, Yoshi's Wooly World, etc. It's just a game released on the console, and at least it'll allow Ninten to release more games.



 

              

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