Then you buy an 4K Blu-Ray Player.  Problem solved.

I prefer it this way. They did that with the ps3 which made the console really expensive for my taste. Reaaally few movies are worth having physical anyways with so many digital services to watch movies I couldn't care less for the newest bluray in a gaming console.

Yeah i will, its called a XB1 Slim. Because the Pro fails to offer me an important feature.

To you.  Evidently, the PS4 Pro was not marketed to you.  So it was never an issue to begin with.  You're the one who made it into an issue (false issue) as I originally stated.

Being the PC enthusiast you are, I know that you're aware of an app called Plex available today and yesteryear on Ps4. Supports 4K, in-home network streaming and you can use it to access your entire library of 4K movies without having to get up and swap discs. Super ironic right? I mean, the app is free, no download speed spent on streaming necessary and it's much more convenient than going to the video store each week to pick up the one of 20 UHD blu Rays available. You also get the benefit of not having to move from your couch to change movies. I figured someone like you would be all about something like this, but I thought I'd remind you just to help.

Oh. And you only need one PC to stream to multiple Ps4s. Talk about cost effective. Why do I need a uhd player again?

I'm in the same boat. My blu-ray purchases have declined a lot this year. I've already upgraded and bought all the classics I wanted, Studio Ghibbli is done and new movie releases are getting weaker all the time. I've spend more time streaming tv series than watching movies the last few months.

It doesn't help that 4K blu-ray is a bit of a disappointing and/or pointless upgrade.
From DVD to Blu-ray -> 6x resolution, 5.3x disc size, 5.3x bitrate, 2x more efficient codec, lossless sound introduced
From Blu-ray to 4K Blu-ray -> 4x resolution, 2x disc size, 2.4x bitrate, 2x more efficient codec, 10 bit color, HDR introduced

Much smaller increase in fidelity than DVD to Blu-ray, hence I suspect HDR is the new thing that has to convince people it's worth it. However HDR was never part of movies, cinemas could not display anything over 48 nits. A well preserved 35mm film is equivalent to about 3K quality, however you can already see the film grain on blu-ray. Big upgrade on blu-ray, better film grain on 4k... Digitally shot movies have only recently gotten to the point of using 4K cameras while many still use 2K masters. Lotr already looks very soft on blu-ray, not much more to squeeze out of movies from before 2014 unless it's one of the few shot on 70mm. (Which already look miles apart on blu-ray)

4K blu-ray looks great compared to streaming ofcourse. 1080p streaming at 5mbps is laughable. The sound track on blu-ray already takes up most of that... Even 4K streaming at Netflix' 15mbps (18mbps with HDR) is still less than blu-ray after factoring in the gain from h.265 vs h.264

What I would have liked to see for 4K:
- HVD discs
- 250-300 mbps matching the cinema master
- lossless 96khz/192khz sound
- 4:4:4 video in 10/12 bit rec.2020 color
10 bit color is there, however smaller color space (DCI P3) and still 4:2:0 chroma subsampled (basically 1080p color resolution)

The library of true 4K movies will slowy grow anyway. Sticking with blu-ray for 4K is the biggest BS imo.

I feel you, especially since I'm a physical copy kind of guy (Thanks A LOT for my basically 0GB PS4 HD, Sony!). I will buy select movies in 4K, but it's going to be a super rare occurence. It might be a more reasonable medium, when 3D is also mainstream.

It's obviously not a "pro" system since it doesn't have all the features that people who consider themselves "gaming pros" want.

It's all talk, but lacks the full set of features.

It's like those nerdy "bro" guys who wear baseball caps backwards, and dress in t-shirts and wrinkled pants like children, and wonder why women don't date them. So pretend like it is their choice not to date.

PS4-Bro

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