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vivster said:

How people think that at this point anything that Sony or Microsoft(or Nintendo) do will have any meaningful impact on the current sales trend is beyond me.

People who don't have an *insert console* yet and don't want to wait or spend too much money on *insert next console iteration* will buy the Slim. There is nothing more to it. No one buys any slim model just for its features.

A lot of people will buy the upgraded consoles instead. Don't generalize. 



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I've not read the thread just yet so I'm sorry if it has been mentioned but one great thing that the XBox1-S has managed even on a couple of people here on VGchartz is that confusion by adding 4k Blu Ray to it after showing off the Scorpio at E3 I think they might possibly be able to mistake a fair amount of buyers into getting the X1S based on them accidentally thinking that it is the 4k gaming machine which was shown at E3 because it does have 4k on the box even if it is not referring to gaming (natively)

Just a thought, it's a good PR move if it does manage to move a few units this way, bad of course when those people get it home and find it isn't the 4k machine... but I feel that the person who buys this mistakenly will not really know they have made a mistake if they're coming from the X360 up to the X1S they'll be blown away by the increase in graphical power all the same as though it was a 4k machine.



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Bandorr said:
I think cheaper is better and easier to understand. People won't need to research 4k TVs, learn what HDR is.

Try to decide if your tv's native upscaler will be as good as the xbox ones. Then you have the "HDR upscaling regular games" vs "games designed for HDR" etc.

One is simply "it is cheap". One involves TVs, upscaling etc.

Anyone who is purchasing 4K TVs with HDR will want something that take advantage of it.  In the end this generation was already Sony but as customers start to purchase these types of TV, the One S and Scropio will gain better adoption.  I believe the key is that MS isn’t looking for immediate marketshare by producing a cheaper X1 but instead is looking for the longer game as console and Entertainment people taste advance.  Nothing is going to chang the landscape for MS in the next few years so its probably best to look to the future.  Also 50 bucks means nothing, you can believe MS will have the price break and one game coming into the holidays to keep sales at a decent clip.



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AsGryffynn said:
vivster said:

How people think that at this point anything that Sony or Microsoft(or Nintendo) do will have any meaningful impact on the current sales trend is beyond me.

People who don't have an *insert console* yet and don't want to wait or spend too much money on *insert next console iteration* will buy the Slim. There is nothing more to it. No one buys any slim model just for its features.

A lot of people will buy the upgraded consoles instead. Don't generalize. 

Where in my post did I say they wouldn't?



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RolStoppable said:
The Xbox One S was designed with the mindset to create a product superior to the regular Xbox One. The PS4 Slim was designed with the mindset to squeeze more profit out of each PS4 sale.

The thread title "Cheap vs. Luxury" doesn't make sense when we are talking about two systems which will at the very most have a price difference of $50.

Or, you know, it was a way to make it cheaper to manufacture.

 

Guh-derp.



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the PS4 Slim is by far the supirior choice of the two. I dont like the Xbox One S design it looks like cheese with all these holes even the older model looks better. The PS4 slim is still stronger and will probably be cheaper.


And i dont like this direction of MS where they will have 3 different consoles to develop for at some point, PS4 will only have 2



vivster said:
AsGryffynn said:

A lot of people will buy the upgraded consoles instead. Don't generalize. 

Where in my post did I say they wouldn't?

Missed the "not spend a lot of money"... 



Considering very few people have the right equipment to watch 4K, I don't think it will help X1S as much as price will for PS4S... myself would buy for the 4K if Neo wouldn't have it, but since it probably will I won't go for the X1S... another problem in Brazil is that I can't find 4K discs to buy.



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