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Is Donald Trump a sociopath?

Yes 303 60.84%
 
No 195 39.16%
 
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"Drumpf" is the weakest insult I've seen for any political candidate. John Oliver is a hack.



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Extremism in the Middle East isn't on a president. It's not like as if the US had kept a remedial force in Iraq that somehow it would be all raindrops and lollipops and McDonalds on every street corner there.

That is an ideology, and really all that would've done is probably incite a never ending spate of attacks against US soldiers in the Middle East.

It's a damned if you do/damned if you don't scenario, if you're there, then everyone piles on and says you're imperialist and get the troops out they're getting killed in attacks, etc. etc. If you don't intervene then people say you're responsible for creating a vacuum.

I hate to say but maybe people in the Middle East need to rise up and realize extremist religious ideology has never brought anything good to the region. Until that happens no outside force can be a solution, the people there have to want it and understand that secularism is good.

You can only take a horse to the water, you can't make it drink.

Also the average American kinda needs to understand ... not every freaking thing revolves around them either. ISIS exists largely because a geopolitcal civil war going on in the Middle East between the Sunnis (largely financed by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and others) and Shia (largely financed by Iran and Syria). That's the main reason it gained power. 



Rpruett said:
JustcallmeRiff said:

Change Trump quote to" Obama is the founder ISIS" and since when has Trump held position to be considered responsible for Americans serving abroad. Trump has given millions of dollars to politicians to influence laws for business. From the birther movement to his candidacy Trump has had a affected on American issues.       If you think Hillary is the most corrupt politician you haven't been in politics very long.

Obama was a primary catalyst for ISIS.  (Bush too).   Why wouldn't Trump give politicians money to improve his business?  That's by the nature of business, what a good businessman does.  What a 'good' politician does is not allow a businessman to do that.  

How many Presidential candidates have been investigated (twice) by the FBI? With their Husband being impeached?  Clintons are scandal after scandal.   

The compulsion to defend Trump's lie. The system is set up where politicians must raise Millions , in the case of presidential billion, of dollars. You're right business men are held to no moral standards and politicians only present the facade of morality. But it's all legal. Overturn citizens united and reinstate mccain-feingold. You like the system slanted in favor of the rich, then you want to wag your finger at Hillary. Twice the FBI conclude "no prosecution"  these Investigations were commissioned by committees which are appointed by the majority leader and Speaker of the House. It seems you don't know any inside politics.



JustcallmeRiff said:
hiccupthehuman said:

It's not like he cared much about the remarks, he just commented on the jokes from the opposition about those things in passing. He wasn't in any way actually seriously fazed by any of it. He rebutted in a joking manner and moved on. I don't see how that would discredit his leadership skills, as a man who has singlehandedly created a billion dollar empire by dealing directly with different leaders of large corporations and organizations.

Donald Trump is not a billionaire. if he would release his tax returns you could prove me wrong. If you account for inflation his daddy gave him more than a billion dollars.

Either way, he is very successful.



hiccupthehuman said:
JustcallmeRiff said:

Donald Trump is not a billionaire. if he would release his tax returns you could prove me wrong. If you account for inflation his daddy gave him more than a billion dollars.

Either way, he is very successful.

Either way??    only in Trumpland , is spending daddy's money considered "successful"



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JustcallmeRiff said:
hiccupthehuman said:

Either way, he is very successful.

Either way??    only in Trumpland , is spending daddy's money considered "successful"

Actually Trump is successful right now but it’s not because of where he started which is real-estate.  If anything, Trump has totally bungled how he handled that part of the business.  If you look a little deeper you find out that he is a magnet for dishonestly.  When people say Trump is a successful business man and this is why they believe he will be good for the economy, I have to ask the question if those people actually looked at Trump business history.

First and foremost, he is the king of reneging on any deals and contracts.  In other words his word means nothing.  If Trump promised you something and even put it in writing, he will easily break that promise.  He will tell you to sue him (which by the way he has 5000 lawsuits against him).  He will say that if you do not come to the table and renegotiate he will lock up your money for years in court.  Some people will say this is screwed business tactics because he gets out of deals he made for a lower cost.  

That may be screwed in the business world of real-estate but think about how that works as the POTUS.  So any deal he does with any country is pretty much worthless.  Think about any foreign nation, investor or bank making any deals with the US.  Why would you go into any contract with a person who does not stand by his word.  Think about the comment Trump made about the US Debt.  He stated he would let it go to default so he can renegotiate the debt with our lenders for a cheaper price.  One of the reason why the US is the US is that we pay our bills.  The US dollar is still the gold standard in trading because the US always pay their bills.  US debt is considered a safe bet because we pay our bills.  When you have someone who believes that not paying our bills make a strong US that is crazy.  If lenders believe we will default on our bills what do you think happens to the credibility of the US.  Trump feels he can cause the US economy to go bankrupt like his companies and dare the lender so sue us or tie up paying our bills in court.

This is why when people use Trump the billionaire as the reason they are voting for him is plain crazy.  Having the type of dishonestly that Trump would bring to the President office is way worse than the cash grab Hillary brings.  At least Hillary would not let the US default on it’s payment and send us spiraling into a depression.  Personally I am not advocating Hillary as I am looking more now at the independents but I will say that never Trump is pretty much a solid in my book. 



JudasKiss said:
"Drumpf" is the weakest insult I've seen for any political candidate. John Oliver is a hack.

He is a lot better than Trevor Noah.  The Daily Show should have went with someone that is an actual comedian.  I agree with you though that nickname is pretty bad and reminds me of people using Killary, Shillary, or crooked Hillary.  These preschool "insults" just show you how bad our political system is.  I say fuck both parties and the winner takes all system. 



Machiavellian said:
JustcallmeRiff said:

Either way??    only in Trumpland , is spending daddy's money considered "successful"

Actually Trump is successful right now but it’s not because of where he started which is real-estate.  If anything, Trump has totally bungled how he handled that part of the business.  If you look a little deeper you find out that he is a magnet for dishonestly.  When people say Trump is a successful business man and this is why they believe he will be good for the economy, I have to ask the question if those people actually looked at Trump business history.

First and foremost, he is the king of reneging on any deals and contracts.  In other words his word means nothing.  If Trump promised you something and even put it in writing, he will easily break that promise.  He will tell you to sue him (which by the way he has 5000 lawsuits against him).  He will say that if you do not come to the table and renegotiate he will lock up your money for years in court.  Some people will say this is screwed business tactics because he gets out of deals he made for a lower cost.  

That may be screwed in the business world of real-estate but think about how that works as the POTUS.  So any deal he does with any country is pretty much worthless.  Think about any foreign nation, investor or bank making any deals with the US.  Why would you go into any contract with a person who does not stand by his word.  Think about the comment Trump made about the US Debt.  He stated he would let it go to default so he can renegotiate the debt with our lenders for a cheaper price.  One of the reason why the US is the US is that we pay our bills.  The US dollar is still the gold standard in trading because the US always pay their bills.  US debt is considered a safe bet because we pay our bills.  When you have someone who believes that not paying our bills make a strong US that is crazy.  If lenders believe we will default on our bills what do you think happens to the credibility of the US.  Trump feels he can cause the US economy to go bankrupt like his companies and dare the lender so sue us or tie up paying our bills in court.

This is why when people use Trump the billionaire as the reason they are voting for him is plain crazy.  Having the type of dishonestly that Trump would bring to the President office is way worse than the cash grab Hillary brings.  At least Hillary would not let the US default on it’s payment and send us spiraling into a depression.  Personally I am not advocating Hillary as I am looking more now at the independents but I will say that never Trump is pretty much a solid in my book. 

Very reasoned , I will concede " Trump is successful right now" as a celebrity. He is a Paris Hilton who loved the attention and ran with it.



the-pi-guy said:
hiccupthehuman said:

It's not like he cared much about the remarks, he just commented on the jokes from the opposition about those things in passing. He wasn't in any way actually seriously fazed by any of it. He rebutted in a joking manner and moved on. I don't see how that would discredit his leadership skills, as a man who has singlehandedly created a billion dollar empire by dealing directly with different leaders of large corporations and organizations.

I'm not just talking about remarks he's made.  You don't send letters to someone insisting your hands are normal sized, you don't sue someone because they think you have less money than you think.  That's not joking, that's thin skinned.  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3289263/How-Donald-Trump-repeatedly-tried-convince-editor-Vanity-Fair-Graydon-Carter-not-short-fingered-vulgarian-sending-pictures-hands.html

Single-handedly is an interesting way of spelling inherited and bankrupted.  He's filed for bankruptcy 4 times.

Maybe he's sensitive over his fingers, but I don't see how it's a big deal or why I should care beyond a simple chuckle. How does him sending pictures to a magazine editor really affect the well-being and security of America and the world? At most, you can make a conjecture that him being sensitive about his fingers means he's thin-skinned about things that actually matter, and that it will lead to strained foreign relations leading to armed conflicts/security risks. That's a big IF, and those remain just that, conjectures. While the opposition actually has made mistakes that have lead to armed conflicts and security risks(Iraq war, Benghazi, email scandal) and corruption (DNC email leaks, taking donations from Middle Eastern regimes).

He created 515 businesses. 4 out of 515 is a pretty successful rate of failure. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of successful people have failed at one point or another, but the smart and successful ones are the ones who persevered through it.  



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