Nintendo needs to win people back, we should never assume people will just "wander around" and find themselves back with Nintendo products.

If the past is an indication, then you're probably wrong. The Wii was a distant third for me. The Wii U ended up a distant third. I didn't even consider a Gamecube or N64. I found the SNES to be kind of boring and it marked my first extended break from gaming. Loved the NES, though.

The odd thing here is that you seem to be basing what other people will want based on what you like. I don't really see how that makes much sense.

I mean, I'll take a good shooter over a good jumping simulator any day. "Overwhelming numbers" of games are not becoming "cinematic experiences." Nostalgia is not how I make my decisions. You can't decide what other people find "fun".

In my opinion, third parties > Nintendo, and by an absolutely massive amount. They can't even hope to be my primary console unless they bridge that gap and even then, I'd take Sony first party over Nintendo first party (Microsoft, too, honestly, but I will always have a PC).

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So first of all, that avatar is awesome :)

Second of all, I agree with you on the relative benefits of the Nintendo ecosystem.

Third of all, I think your thesis is wrong. The fact is a lot of people have drifted away from Nintendo or simply prefer the offerings on rival platforms. A lot of people love military shooters, open-world sandbox games, cinematic action games, sim racers, and RPGs - many of which can't be found on Nintendo hardware.

I think Nintendo makes the best games in the business, but many do not. And no amount of franchise fatigue or nostalgic yearning will convince them to invest in Nintendo.

I tried going back to Nintendo, but I can't, they lost their spark..... I was a huge Nintendo it with the GC n64 and send... now I'm n Ps guy.... PlayStation has the most variety

Most of the points you made I agree with, especially the too much violence/too many shooters/cinematic experience parts. Then again, I think shooters are too bland and basic for my taste, and I hate most things with unnecessary violence in them, so that explains a lot.

Also, I really don't understand why people want Nintendo to become yet another company that makes mature games, when they're the only ones left that still try to make something that appeals to everyone.

You assume that you only can get non-violent, non-cinematic, "pure fun" gameplay on a Nintendo platform. This assumption is simply wrong, and thus the entire premise off your thread falls flat.

Maybe you should expand your horizons and take a look at what other platforms have to offer. It's a lot more than just your Cods and Fifas and Uncharteds and what not.

~25 years of gaming on my belt
0 Nintendo platforms bought
Though i've played on almost all of them

When I was reaaally young i hated peas. Couple years later, started loving them and still do. but some people will always hate peas brah. Maybe replace peas with mushrooms for this context, but I always liked mushrooms *shrug*

You sure that's all it takes to be successful? Nintendo 64 had Mario 64 & Ocarina of Time.

I could argue this for the people who first played Nintendo games growing up. But for the millennials who grew up on Playstation or Xbox? Not so much.

I'm an 80's kid and so for me, the NES and Nintendo are video games defined. They're like comfort food (god do I hate that term) but in video game form. All I have to hear is one of those iconic themes and I'm blinded by nostalgic bliss. But if you are a late 90's/00's kid who's first console was PS2... none of that matters. You're more likely to feel the way I do about Zelda for something like Crash or Spyro.