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Arlo said:
And yet they insist that NX isn't replacing the Wii U. Come on, get your story straight.

The official statement is that NX won't be a simple replacement for the 3DS or Wii U because it features a brand new concept. NX is going to replace both, but neither the handheld or the home console part of NX will be merely a beefed up version of the 3DS and the Wii U, hence why NX isn't a "simple replacement".

If Nintendo truly insisted that NX isn't going to succeed the Wii U, then that would go hand in hand with statements that the Wii U will receive new first party games after NX has launched. Nintendo never said such things.



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Ljink96 said:
curl-6 said:

I'd disagree and say it's actually their Sega Saturn; a niche curiosity with some software gems but which got practically everything wrong from a design and management perspective.

But Saturn's hardware and software library aren't going to be remembered for something great. Saturn was a 2D machine at its best. That tried to do 3D games. It didn't know what it wanted to be. Wii U much like Dreamcast had a goal in mind but were placed too close to hardware that would easily overshadow it. Saturn had like a few good games on it. Dreamcast, although it didn't have many, had a much better software library than the Saturn. Off the top of my head I can name Panzer, maybe Sonic R, Grandia, Virtua Fighter 1 and 2, Burning Rangers, Bug...and that;s all I got for USA. I'm sure I could dig for more...ugh, Nights maybe. Dreamcast had Sonic Adventure 1/2, Skies of Arcadia, Phantasy Star Online, Jet Set Radio, I mean I could go on. By Wii U being dreamcast, I mean it's good hardware and good software that were easily overshadowed but offered some amazing content. Not only was Saturn overshadowed, it offered little good content.

That's where I'd disagree. I see Wii U as bad hardware like the Saturn, not good, forward-thinking hardware like the Dreamcast.



Magnus said:
curl-6 said:

I'd disagree and say it's actually their Sega Saturn; a niche curiosity with some software gems but which got practically everything wrong from a design and management perspective.

I'd say it's even worse than the Saturn.

Because?

Wii U already outsold it and has many high calibre games that Saturn could never dream of



 

 

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RolStoppable said:
Nintendo's forecast for worldwide shipments implied as much.

Still, Nintendo is very upfront about how quickly they will move on from Wii U lately. First that Aonuma quote, now this... *dances on the Wii U's grave*

Just to add to this post, Aqua pointed at the latest NPD thread that from the 800k Wii U's forecast, ~700k were already in their inventory, so production has almost ended completely.

  I saw it and I forgot to ask how does she know it?  How is she able to know such a thing that only Nintendo's employees would know? I suspect something though, and maybe she makes a big mistake by a misapprehension !

 

Apropos, sales-shipments of Japan comparison,   demonstrated that there was almost no wii u stock by the end of March! Since then, wii u is selling constantly 4k and Nintendo is releasing  a splatoon wii u bundle again, in July! So, Production must have not  ended!



tak13 said:
Pavolink said:

Just to add to this post, Aqua pointed at the latest NPD thread that from the 800k Wii U's forecast, ~700k were already in their inventory, so production has almost ended completely.

  I saw it and I forgot to ask how does she know it?  How is she able to know such a thing that only Nintendo's employees would know? I suspect something though, and maybe she makes a big mistake by a misapprehension !

 

Apropos, sales-shipments of Japan comparison,   demonstrated that there was almost no wii u stock by the end of March! Since then, wii u is selling constantly 4k and Nintendo is releasing  a splatoon wii u bundle again, in July! So, Production must have not  ended!

Inventory is a part of a financial report, so that's where this can be gotten from. Although I am not sure if it's broken down how much value Nintendo applies to a Wii U or if there's an inventory position that is Wii U-only. If it's just a single position, then it would include the 3DS as well and in that case the math to arrive at the number of Wii U units would be wrong.

In the big picture though, it doesn't matter. It's undeniable that the Wii U is on its last legs and the exact time for the end of production is quite meaningless.



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So 14-15 million lifetime?

They are working hard to nicely kill it, so I personally give in. Kill it.

I loved the Wii U.



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spurgeonryan said:
So 14-15 million lifetime?

They are working hard to nicely kill it, so I personally give in. Kill it.

I loved the Wii U.

It might be my favorite Nintendo console of all time. Its a shame it got disprespected the way it did. I'm playing Bayonetta 2 right now and am still quite surprised at its quality. Wii U will definitely become a huge collectors item down the road. At least we can look forward to that I suppose.



RolStoppable said:
DonFerrari said:

Yep, and people is ok with paying those prices... but for some reason complain about the price of the HW.

That's a matter of perception of the medium as a whole. Video game hardware will inevitably age and become outdated, but video game software does not necessarily. If you look at it that way, then it stands to reason to put a (much) higher value on games.

DonFerrari said:

Then no one can complain, unless the people that have been waiting zelda through all the delays.

Some people like to complain for the sake of complaining. And if someone bought a Wii U solely for Zelda, then they should learn the lesson that they shouldn't buy the hardware before the one game they want is available because a lot of things could happen. It isn't unlike people who bought a launch PS3 in anticipation of Final Fantasy XIII and pretty much only that, only to see that the PS3 dropped to $300 from the original $600 by the time the game finally released. That's $300 being wasted, just like buying a Wii U for Zelda is when the console could have been skipped in favor of NX.

SW is dated same as HW, and you need both to play games... and a hardcore gamer buy like 20-100 games a gen the price of the SW is much more relevant than HW, HW price should only be a concern for casual players that purchase less than 5 games (well those would also be people that complain that the games aren't worth how much they ask for it). I value the tangible machine much more, but that is me.

And sure, I agree some people just want to complain, doesn't matter why. And sure any dumb person that buy a console for a single game that isn't out yet deserves his imbecility. Because not only did they expend more money (because the console could even drop price or have a cheaper bundle with the antecipated game) but would also have a paperweight for a lot of time. Now if you do love Zelda or FF and bought before release because you also like the other games released it's ok and understandable to complain about delays, but it isn't the end of the world so no need to be too upset at devs. If it was up to devs and publishers they would certainly release earlier as possible to collect the money.

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midrange said:

Lol, first off the neo and the xbox scorpio are new concepts. The ability to support 4k gaming hasn't been done yet for consoles. But they are not replacing the current gen because the current gen is still selling.

As for the NX, Nintendo has always said that the NX would not replace the wii u:

"The NX is neither the successor to the Wii U nor to the 3DS", said Kimishima (as translated by NeoGAF user GSR). "It's a new way of playing games, which I think will have a larger impact than the Wii U, but I don't feel it's a pure replacement for the Wii U."

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/05/16/nintendo-president-nx-is-not-the-successor-to-the-wii-u-nor-to-the-3ds

"That being said, I can assure you we're not building the next version of Wii or Wii U"

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/12/nx_wont_be_the_next_version_of_wii_or_wii_u_says_nintendo_president_tatsumi_kimishima

But now we are replacing the wii u with the NX being the successor. Of course I could always find more sources, but before I spend more time on this, I'd like to see your sources that claim the NX was always meant to replace the wii u.

Higher resolution for video games is not a new concept. That has been done several times before.

The first quote you provided says neither Wii U or 3DS which is the same thing Iwata said. A new way to play games (a brand new concept) obviously refers to control input while "pure replacement" doesn't divert from what Iwata said before either. Kimishima is merely repeating what Iwata said. The words are slightly different because the translation isn't an official one from Nintendo.

The second quote means that the Wii brandname will be dropped. Nintendo systems have had various names, so a new Nintendo system having a different name and succeeding an old system isn't anything new either. Considering how the Wii U sold, it's no surprise that Nintendo would drop the Wii brand.

As for my sources, the already provided quotes do the job already. Your interpretation of the quotes is flawed, that's all. You are on a sales website, you know how terrible the Wii U is selling, so why would you expect that NX won't succeed the Wii U? Why would Nintendo spend additional resources on Wii U games when the system is as good as dead? NX was always going to succeed both the Wii U and 3DS since Nintendo had already talked about combining their R&D departments for home consoles and handhelds, because the technological differences weren't as pronounced as they were before, so keeping home consoles and handhelds as separate entities wouldn't make sense anymore. The benefits would also apply to game development, hence why NX was not to replace 3DS or Wii U, but rather 3DS and Wii U.

Nintendo had to find a way to support both a home console and a handheld with first party games on a more consistent basis, and when you know that, you can make the next logical step and rule out that Nintendo will support 3DS, Wii U and NX all side by side. When NX launches, the end of 3DS and Wii U will be near. Nintendo won't support three separate platforms, but only one that consists of a home console device and a handheld device. That platform is NX.

You can read up on Nintendo's Q&A sessions with investors on this website. Scroll through the newsfeed and look for "Q&A" to access the various sessions. The earliest hints at NX date back to early 2014, so a good year before it was announced. Early hints include the mention of combining R&D departments for home console and handheld, measures to improve the quantity of first party software output and the intention to redefine what a video game platform is in a good two years (that would be 2016, but alas, eventually NX got delayed). It may seem lazy that I don't point you directly to all NX-related information, but there have been a lot of Q&As over the years. Check it out if you are interested.

Just to complement. Nintendo have kept the same of HW when they succeded (NES to SNES and Wii to WiiU) in that generation and dropped when they lost relevance (as they did all the other times).



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Needs to drop the price first



I don't want that rubbish for free even. I would rather die than buying a Wii U.

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