That chart proves my point as only 5 games are above 30GB, I also don't get the rest of your argument here are you now comparing WiiU internal storage and the space on the carts? That's a pretty irrelevant argument.

That's not 5 games, that's the evolution in size of games from 4 publishers, 7 engines (on the right of the graph) and 9 franchises: Activision_Call of Duty, Ubisoft_Assassin's Creed & Far Cry, EA_Battlefield & Titanfall, Rockstar_GTA & Max Payne and id_Rage & The New Order.

And if you need more examples: Assetto Corsa is 30GB, The Witcher 3 is 35GB and XCOM2 is 45GB, just to name a few. Games are growing in size and 32GB carts are not enough to store them.

And my Wii U argument came from you: "Either way 32GB is more space by default". Wii U had 32 GB of Storage that proved to be too small for almost all of us.

Are you not reading what you're replying to? The 32GB was in regards to carts.

You named a few games that are the occasional ones that pass 30GB, to look at other games Fallout 4 another huge game comes in at 27GB, not many games in general will be as big as F4 or the games you mentioned, not for a while, even look at Farcry Primal another huge game that came out March and it comes in at 20GB, you're flat out exaggerating claiming that 32GB is not enough space.

This highlights the flaw in that graph picking one game to try and palm it off as most games, GTAV is also 50GB on that graph yet still on 360 which used DVDs.

Who are you making that question to, me or you? Because I simply stated that those 32GB of a cart are not enough to store modern games ass we saw with the Wii U and its 32GB of storage. You can't even install Xenoblade Chronicles X plus it's not-necessary-but-actually-important download packs on a Wii U!

I haven't "named a few games", I have shown you how the size of a set franchises has increased during the PS360 era to the current one, something that can be extrapolated to the rest of the industry.

Fallout 4 is a small game, true, but it's also not a pretty game. The textures and other assets are not up to the current gen, which is why it is that small.

Finally, the GTA V game that launched on the Xbox360 looks very, very different that the GTA V that is available on PS4, X1 and PC. But if you're fine with NX having Gen 7 graphics, then good for you.

I'm asking you because what you're saying makes no sense in the context of anything here, Wii U uses 25GB BR like discs, XCX's installation options are not required at all they're there for people to have improved loading times, what you posted here not only has no bearing on anything but seems misinformed.

No you've only shown me a few, you can't wiggle me on this one being a Steam and Origin owner with hundreds of games many recent, one game doesn't equal the whole franchise sorry but that's a spin as many games in the industry come in the 20GBs. The textures and such of F4 may not be as good as other current gens but then it has a far bigger scale and content than the majority of those games.

The PS3/360 version of GTAV is the original version, it was uprezzed for the later platforms I'm willing to bet the PC version is also far bigger than the PS4 and X1 version as is normally the case on PC games due to having access to better hardware options.

Fallout 4 has a lot of content, yes, but that content (as in places and objects and NPCs, etc) has to be shown on screen and with polygons and textures, and the game is lacking in those parts which is the reason of why it looks bad compared to other modern games like The Witcher 3 that is also a WRPG.

The next gen version of GTA V is not just an upscaled port, it has improved geometry, textures and... well, basically everything that could be improved, was improved. And those 50GB are for the console versions, at least the PS4 one.

Yet another large game that is graphically better in Farcry Primal is even smaller in size than F4.

Don't know about Primal as I don't like the Far Cry series.

Still, for someone who accused me of basing my comments on a couple of games, you are doing the same thing .

This response makes no sense in the context of the debate, highlighting examples is not basing things off a few games especially when I own many of these games on Steam, I'm speaking from what I've personally seen.

So, you base your arguments on your experiences, of which you've only named FallOut 4 and Far Cry Primal, and it's ok. I post examples of games exceeding those 32GB and also a graph that shows where the industry as a whole is going and how the size of the games is growing past 30GB, but it's not ok.

That's good to know.