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PS4 Lifetime sale in Japan?

3 - 4M 12 3.24%
 
4 - 5M 9 2.43%
 
5 - 6M 24 6.49%
 
6 - 7M 32 8.65%
 
7 - 8M 48 12.97%
 
8 - 9M 36 9.73%
 
9 - 10M 24 6.49%
 
10 - 11M (Maybe Beat the PS3!) 54 14.59%
 
11M+ (Beat the PS3!) 59 15.95%
 
It will even beat the Nintendo Wii! (12.7M) 72 19.46%
 
Total:370
Ryng on 19 March 2016
Boutros said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

Could be. But that's a really, really big increase for the series... i know the series is stronger than one time, but i really don't see that big increase.

What do you expect for PS3 version?

Like below 200k for the PS3 version. Maybe closer to 150k. The later the game comes out the lower the PS3 sales lol

yeah i was thinking the same, around 150,000 on PS3 and 350,000... Well looks like people are very optimist with Persona.

I can change my prediction to 400,000 but over 500K seem very much, guess we will see.



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tbone51 on 19 March 2016
Ryng_Tolu said:
Boutros said:

You think Persona 5 is going to sell less than 350k on the PS4?...

I predict 500,000 all version combined, and yeah i think some like 350k or so for PS4.

Black Ops III should sell over 350,000, but under 400,000 lifetime. So yeah, i think Black Ops III will win.

Nah it'll be much higher Imo. 400k-500k for the ps4 version with another 150k-200k for the ps3 imo



Ryng on 19 March 2016
tbone51 said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

I predict 500,000 all version combined, and yeah i think some like 350k or so for PS4.

Black Ops III should sell over 350,000, but under 400,000 lifetime. So yeah, i think Black Ops III will win.

Nah it'll be much higher Imo. 400k-500k for the ps4 version with another 150k-200k for the ps3 imo

If TBone believe it will sell over 400,000 i will trusth him. :P



Swordmasterman on 19 March 2016
spemanig said:

Swordmasterman said:

 What the fuck ?, did you know how much each game sold on Japan ?, Final Fantasy, already sold with 1 Tittle more than 3.5 Millions on Japan, Dragon Quest, already sold more than 4.3-4.5 Millions with just 1 main tittle, those are the biggest Third Party games of japan, and you think that this will not Affect sales  of Hardware ?, the Lowest week opening for a Final Fantasy Game, was how much ?, 1.3-1.5 Millions ?.

The Biggest oppening for a Persona game, was a little more than 200 Thousands first week on Japan, this is a Strong franchise there, look at how many games struggle to make it on Germany, and UK, the other biggest markets for gaming, Comparing this with a New brand release, Persona 5 (that will be bigger than Persona 4), is on the Same size for Japan, than Far Cry 4, for Germany, and UK, with all the Versions of Far Cry 4(PC, PS3, XBOX  360, PS4, Xbox One) on UK, it sold nearly 200 Thousands, same for Germany, and the biggest oppening for the series of Persona, was 200K.

So you want to say if Something like Far Cry 4, launch exclusive for Germany, or UK, it would not sell Hardware ?, wtf.

People purchase consoles because of the games, and because PS4, is getting a lot of japanese games this year, the sales had a  YOY Growth, i don't know who said that PS4, will only sell 3-4 Millions Life-time on Japan, with Final Fantasy 15, Dragon Quest 11, and Persona 5, it mighty break 4 Millions before the end of the year on Japan.

None of that will sell enough hardware to get PS4 to sell 10.4m lifetime. It doesn't matter how strong the franchises are. MK8 is a much stronger franchise than all of those, and it didn't help the Wii U. P5 is also out on PS3 meaning people don't have to upgrade, DQ11 will be out on the vastly more popular 3DS over there, and FF15 won't help enough to get it over 10m.

The Persona 5's Playstation 3 version, will not hold too much the PS4 Version, look for Dragon Quest Builders, and for the last Yakuza, the games are now selling more on Playstation 4, than Playstation 3.

Dragon quest 11, will be avaliable for Nintendo 3DS, but will also be avaliable for Playstation 4, they have 20 Millions of Nintendo 3DS in japan, if anyone want  the Console version, that of course will have more to ofer than the Handheld, they will, this still a game that will move Systems, and Mario Kart, isn't the Most Popular franchise between Dragon Quest, and Final Fantasy, both Final Fantasy, and Dragon Quest, are bigger on Japan,

the Mario Kart, sold 1.21Millions on japan according to VG Chartz,

the one before that sold 2.62,

and before that sold 3.79.

Now Dragon Quest X ( a MMORPG) sold more than 1 Million of Copies on Japan, now lets focus on the last 3 Non-MMORPG main entries.

 

Dragon Quest IX, 4.35 Millions.

Dragon Quest Viii, 4,26 Millions

Dragon Quest Vii 5.40 Millions.

 

Final Fantasy Xiii, 1.88 Millions

Final Fantasy Xii, 2.87 Millions

Final Fantasy X, 3 Millions.

And the Next Final Fantasy, will be better than FFXIII, don't know if will surpass the others, but will atleast sell more than FFXIII, we already are 7 Years without Final Fantasy, while the time between FFXII, and FFXIII, was just 3 Years, so is atleast 2 Millions.

Mario Kart, is weaker on Japan than Final Fantasy, and Dragon Quest, i don't know where to you got those "MK, a much stronger franchise than Thoses", maybe you are using Worldwide numbers, but for Japan, Dragon Quest, and Final Fantasy, are the kings of the Home console market since the 90s.

 

Final Fantasy, of course will sell more on the next game, (is on number 1-2 on Famitsu research of Most awaited games of the Japanese Gamers), even if Dragon Quest, have a drop on Sales, will be greater than 3 Millions, and is Atleast a 1-1.5 Million seller for Playstation 4 in Japan.

Persona 5, was also high awaited in the Research, so will of course be the Biggest in the Series, braking the 200 Thousands  first Week sales on Japan, but if will hit 1 Million, only time will tell.

Before Splatoon, Final Fantasy XIII, was the only game on Japan, to launch and break 1 Millions of units sold in the same year, so was 6 Years before someone could take it from Final Fantasy, and you say that Mario Kart,  is a much more stronger franchise Inside the Japan ?, Square Enix, is the Queen of Japan.



Swordmasterman on 19 March 2016
Ryng_Tolu said:
tbone51 said:

Nah it'll be much higher Imo. 400k-500k for the ps4 version with another 150k-200k for the ps3 imo

If TBone believe it will sell over 400,000 i will trusth him. :P

Persona 4 Golden, a Remaster from the PS2 Game, sold more than 400K On Vita, Persona 5, will of course sell more than that on PS4.



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GamechaserBE on 19 March 2016
Boutros said:
GamechaserBE said:

Well at this moment their is no proof that it will be certain that PS4 will beat PS3 or that PS4 will not beat PS3 LTD sales.

I find it hard to say that PS4 is doing great, if PS2 sold 40K a week people would create articles how PS2 is dying because at average the PS2 was selling in one week what PS4 sells in a month. Ofcourse time changes but even compared to PS3 it is not doing that great, the PS3 had everything against it, the Wii was selling amazingly and got exclusives announced on a weekly basis, the Xbox 360 was catching games that PS3 did not get or later...And ofcourse the price..

The PS4 has all the exclusives/competition is weak but still it did not beat the WiiU yet in LTD sales while many predicted it would outsell the WiiU in no time and the price for the PS4 is cheap compared to PS3...

Also we see a decline in some franchises on PS4, MGSV did not so good compared to MGSIV and MGSV was an exclusive in Japan so the potential 4000 sales on Xbox one could not have hurt it, Street fighter V released as an exclusive in Japan compared to SFIV and barely outsold the Xbox 360 first week in Japan of SFIV.. Star ocean V pre orders on PS4 are not doing that great and has the potential to sell less than the Xbox 360 version of SOIV in Japan... Really if someone made a thread two months ago will SOV in Japan for PS4 sell more than SOIV on Xbox 360 FW I would have posted yes like probably 98% of the users on VGCHARTZ. Is it because those games are bad? Is it because the mobile market keeping gamers away from PS4? Is it the average age gamers demographic in Japan getting smaller?    

But with PS3 sales MGSV is ahead of MGS4. This can't be overlooked since MGS4 was exclusive to the PS3. And there are many reasons in play for other series declining. I can think of just as many series growing on the PS4 compared to the PS3 (mostly western franchises). For a random game like Rainbox Six: Siege to do over 100k is an example of where the shift in interest is heading. Last gen, Rainbow Six: Vegas couldn't even do half that across two platforms. And I don't know if you played Star Ocean 4 but in my opinion it killed a franchise so whatever SOV sells I will be impressed lol

Accoring to Vgchartz MGSV PS4/PS3 sales combined are still behind MGSIV sales :s?  And I wanted to add that indeed Western franchises are doing better and you can say it are impressive sales for Western Franchises but I believe the amount of people who buy a PS4 in Japan for those Western games is very low.



Swordmasterman on 19 March 2016
GamechaserBE said:
Boutros said:

But with PS3 sales MGSV is ahead of MGS4. This can't be overlooked since MGS4 was exclusive to the PS3. And there are many reasons in play for other series declining. I can think of just as many series growing on the PS4 compared to the PS3 (mostly western franchises). For a random game like Rainbox Six: Siege to do over 100k is an example of where the shift in interest is heading. Last gen, Rainbow Six: Vegas couldn't even do half that across two platforms. And I don't know if you played Star Ocean 4 but in my opinion it killed a franchise so whatever SOV sells I will be impressed lol

Accoring to Vgchartz MGSV PS4/PS3 sales combined are still behind MGSIV sales :s?  And I wanted to add that indeed Western franchises are doing better and you can say it are impressive sales for Western Franchises but I believe the amount of people who buy a PS4 in Japan for those Western games is very low.

I Don't think that the number of people that purchase a PS4, for western game in Japan is Low, otherwise Sony, would not had made so much marketing for Black Ops 3 on Japan, i'm a Subscriber of Sony's Japanese Channel, and  the Channel had more than 4-5 Videos of Black Ops 3, per weeks before the Release, and some After the Release.



Boutros on 19 March 2016
GamechaserBE said:
Boutros said:

But with PS3 sales MGSV is ahead of MGS4. This can't be overlooked since MGS4 was exclusive to the PS3. And there are many reasons in play for other series declining. I can think of just as many series growing on the PS4 compared to the PS3 (mostly western franchises). For a random game like Rainbox Six: Siege to do over 100k is an example of where the shift in interest is heading. Last gen, Rainbow Six: Vegas couldn't even do half that across two platforms. And I don't know if you played Star Ocean 4 but in my opinion it killed a franchise so whatever SOV sells I will be impressed lol

Accoring to Vgchartz MGSV PS4/PS3 sales combined are still behind MGSIV sales :s?  And I wanted to add that indeed Western franchises are doing better and you can say it are impressive sales for Western Franchises but I believe the amount of people who buy a PS4 in Japan for those Western games is very low.

Well I'm talking launch aligned for MGSV vs MGS4 (and including digital sales which VGC doesn't show).

First 7 weeks according to Media Create (without digital sales):

 

 

And we know digital sales are at least 65k on PS4+PS3.

And I disagree I think franchises like Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto sold many PS4s already.



Miyamotoo on 21 March 2016

PS4 is selling much worse than PS3 in Japan, I really don't see PS4 passing PS3.



Swordmasterman on 21 March 2016
Miyamotoo said:
PS4 is selling much worse than PS3 in Japan, I really don't see PS4 passing PS3.

the Playstation 4, is selling ahead of Playstation 3 in the same  life-time that Playstation 3 had, and Playstation 4, is selling more than 1.2-1.3 Millions per year,  also the Playstation 4, is up YOY on Japan, it mighty break 4 Millions until the end of the year, i don't know why people voted for 3-4 Millions Life-time for Playstation 4.