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Are you disappointed, Xbox-Console-Fans?

yes =( goodbye xbox1 261 34.52%
 
Yes of course!Damn Microsoft! 65 8.60%
 
A little bit 57 7.54%
 
I do not care 141 18.65%
 
I think..no.. 33 4.37%
 
No/exclusive games are not important to me. 46 6.08%
 
see results 153 20.24%
 
Total:756
CosmicSex said:
Aerys said:

So Crackdown 3 + Scalebound on PC confirmed

 

Id love to find back thé thread about this news with all thé " it will never come on PC, it's owned by Microsoft this time "

My fav line is

"In the case of things like Scalebound or Crackdown or Quantum Break, you know, just to be completely honest with you..."

Thats good stuff. 

You could also add the part "it's not saying those games..".

Even better stuff.



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CosmicSex said:

This is all Phils fault to be honest.  Crap is fucked up in the head and so are the members of his cult, but Phil - being the good guy - always validated their supity by responding.  Then, Crap started thinking that he mattered... lol I know its crazy.  Phil did this to us.  I think he confused 'hardcore dedication' with 'bat shit insanity'... they are very similar after all. 

It's not Phil's fault the man is insane.



Wyrdness said:
CosmicSex said:

This is all Phils fault to be honest.  Crap is fucked up in the head and so are the members of his cult, but Phil - being the good guy - always validated their supity by responding.  Then, Crap started thinking that he mattered... lol I know its crazy.  Phil did this to us.  I think he confused 'hardcore dedication' with 'bat shit insanity'... they are very similar after all. 

It's not Phil's fault the man is insane.

But Phil is the one who has engaged in opend dialogues and retweeting craps tweets for like 2 years.  At what point do you stop associating your company with an insane person.  He let Crap feel so confortable that Crap though Phil was taking advice from him (***okay yes I laughed and yes you are right its just pure insanity).  

Someone needs to tell Crap that Phil isn't his boyfriend. 



CosmicSex said:
Aerys said:

So Crackdown 3 + Scalebound on PC confirmed

 

Id love to find back thé thread about this news with all thé " it will never come on PC, it's owned by Microsoft this time "

My fav line is

"In the case of things like Scalebound or Crackdown or Quantum Break, you know, just to be completely honest with you..."

Thats good stuff. 

It reminds me the " we wouuld never fund a game to see it releasing on an other console "

And still Spencer will have some fans to defend him and his obvious lies and ways of taking people for fools



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Why would you be disappointed by that?
Microsoft is supporting Windows 10 and Xbox One platforms, this is just awesome for gamers...



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And still Spencer will have some fans to defend him and his obvious lies and ways of taking people for fools

Except there's nothing to defend, at least with that article. Just read the whole thing.

My guess is Remedy wanted PC release and for a good reason. Think countries like Germany, X1 isn't selling and QB isn't realistically going to do much. On PC however, it's likely to sell well. And releasing on PC and getting some hype going will benefit X1 in countries where console is selling.



Conina said:
Azuren said:

Let's also try to remember that the original post did give credit to PC? You're arguing over the semantics of wording. It's unbecoming. 

I'm arguing about spinning facts (you need a microsoft gaming system to play Quantum Break, either an XBO or a Windows10-PC) in different directions (by adding "PS4 and WiiU owners" although these systems doesn't make the Quantum Break experience on PC any better).

Would you be okay with spins like the following?

  • Gravity Rush on PS4 - "Well this is good news for 3DS and Xbox owners who don't have a PSVita that want to play this game and have the proper PS4 to play this."
  • Hyrule Warriors Legends on 3DS - "Well this is good news for Playstation and Xbox owners who don't have a Wii U that want to play this game and have the proper 3DS to play this."
  • The Last of Us on PS4 - "Well this is good news for PC and Wii U owners who don't have a PS3 that want to play this game and have the proper PS4 to play this."

Again, you're getting into semantics about wording, not to mention trying to justify PC (a neutral platform) as a specifically Microsoft platform. Which is fine... Except Microsoft isn't necessarily Xbox. Windows is a separate division that gets different privileges and more money. 

 

But yeah, you're arguing silly semantics with someone who didn't even make the original statement. Congratulations.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
ZyroXZ2 said:

I responded to a similar thread from another forum earlier, and while the topic discussion may not be a complete match, I feel my thoughts might still be worth something in this thread. Here's a copy-paste of my response to this news on that other forum:

There's no doubt still a "hate Microsoft" bandwagon in which the narrative for MS exclusives coming to PC is a "loss" and makes the Xbox One "not worth buying", but the vast majority of people who use this narrative neither own a PC capable of matching the graphical fidelity/performance of the Xbox One nor will even buy these games on PC anyway knowing that they're still supporting Microsoft as a result of their purchase.

The reality is that the current gen x86 consoles ARE budget PC gaming in a nutshell. And due to their mass production, no end-user will EVER build a more powerful gaming PC for $350. A common mistake is to just look at the CPU, GPU, and RAM and say, "look at how much better the components I can buy for $350 are!" while completely forgetting that to match what comes in the box of the console requires buying a PC case, a mouse and keyboard, Windows 10, internal components, etc. that all add up to well beyond $350 (not to mention a cheap headset if you want to match the Xbox One's pack-in like-for-like). When all is said and done, if someone doesn't have a gaming PC that matches or exceeds the performance of a gaming console, I will recommend the gaming console. Every. Single. Time.

On the PC side of gaming, if you wish to build something better than the consoles, then you're in business. PC gaming is no longer the budget friendly option (and in many ways, never was: it was an odd exception that last generation's HD console twins were matched if not exceeding the then-high-performance PCs), it's the option you go for because you want the best of the best. BUT, as a person with a beast of a gaming rig, therein lies another side of the argument against PC gaming: we spend all this money to get the top-notch gaming performance only to have our versions of games be marginally "upgraded" from their console versions. The excuse to go PC loses a major step here since these "better" versions are just a few bells and whistles thrown on. Developers are NOT going to give PC gamers the original release trailer for The Witcher 3 or The Division and give console gamers the latest, downgraded version.

In conclusion: yes, most people who simply knock the Xbox One simply because its exclusives come to PC are doing so simply for the sake of hating on Microsoft. There was NEVER a buying intention from these people to begin with. To people considering an Xbox One that are a bit more impressionable and affected by the "go PC" narrative of MS haters, it's a very simple question: does your PC exceed what the Xbox One can do? If not, then buy an Xbox One. By the time you're done upgrading or building a new PC, you'll have spent more money. If you're willing to spend even MORE money to get better graphics and performance, it sadly won't give you the night-and-day difference you deserve. If you can live with that, go PC.

Narrative implies fiction rather than fact, a game on multiple platforms reduces the need for the platforms that can play this game. The only way this isn't true is if you have significantly different versions and all that does is skew things even further rather than balance them. Even if you didn't have a PC or an XB1, its a fact that the game being on both platforms, saves you a choice from making either.

I think you overexaggerate the importance of graphical fidelity/performance on PC gaming, and I don't blame you the graphics/performance enthusiasts are a vocal minority. Especially when we consider this from a budgetary perspective, if you've got a medium spec PC, wouldn't it be cheaper to get a 60$ game Vs. 60$ game + 299$ console? It doesn't need to exceed graphical fidelity/performance, unless that's something the consumer cares about. 

The reason consoles are still a thing is because they hit that ever shrinking sweet spot of graphics/performance, price, and ease of use, and PC/Mobile is closing it in from all sides.

Yeah there is a hate bandwagon, but that doesn't mean legitmate concerns should be ignored, and hell all that does is inflate the bandwagon.

The thing is: the PS4 stands as a sales example that people this generation DO care about gaming graphics/performance and in a large enough quantity to NOT be a vocal minority.  Otherwise, they'd have bought a lot more Xbox One's for its $50 cheaper price tag (up until the PS4's recent price drop of sorts), and vast majority of identical 3rd party games.  At this point in time, the PS4's exclusive library is still not the best and definitely not stronger than the Xbox One's right now, as many of its "exclusive" titles are either also on PS3, Vita, and/or PC.  That PS4 is selling off good marketing, and that marketing is that it's the "best place to play", and anyone looking at what this represents in the gaming space is those dazzling graphics, not a library of games people can't get anywhere else.

At the same time, the vast majority of PC gamers are, indeed, using mid-range hardware.  But PC gamers who care about graphics are not a vocal minority: we may be a minority in comparison to how many PC gamers have PCs that can pump out higher graphical settings, but if you've spent enough time in the PC gaming community, you'd know how important being able to "run" a game on "decent" settings is.  In fact, I haven't even seen any PC gamers ever say, "I just want to be able to play it smoothly on the lowest settings".  Graphics matter to PC gamers more than console gamers since we have the power to change what we get out of them, but the number of us who can crank them up are, indeed, a minority.



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ZyroXZ2 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Narrative implies fiction rather than fact, a game on multiple platforms reduces the need for the platforms that can play this game. The only way this isn't true is if you have significantly different versions and all that does is skew things even further rather than balance them. Even if you didn't have a PC or an XB1, its a fact that the game being on both platforms, saves you a choice from making either.

I think you overexaggerate the importance of graphical fidelity/performance on PC gaming, and I don't blame you the graphics/performance enthusiasts are a vocal minority. Especially when we consider this from a budgetary perspective, if you've got a medium spec PC, wouldn't it be cheaper to get a 60$ game Vs. 60$ game + 299$ console? It doesn't need to exceed graphical fidelity/performance, unless that's something the consumer cares about. 

The reason consoles are still a thing is because they hit that ever shrinking sweet spot of graphics/performance, price, and ease of use, and PC/Mobile is closing it in from all sides.

Yeah there is a hate bandwagon, but that doesn't mean legitmate concerns should be ignored, and hell all that does is inflate the bandwagon.

The thing is: the PS4 stands as a sales example that people this generation DO care about gaming graphics/performance and in a large enough quantity to NOT be a vocal minority.  Otherwise, they'd have bought a lot more Xbox One's for its $50 cheaper price tag (up until the PS4's recent price drop of sorts), and vast majority of identical 3rd party games.  At this point in time, the PS4's exclusive library is still not the best and definitely not stronger than the Xbox One's right now, as many of its "exclusive" titles are either also on PS3, Vita, and/or PC.  That PS4 is selling off good marketing, and that marketing is that it's the "best place to play", and anyone looking at what this represents in the gaming space is those dazzling graphics, not a library of games people can't get anywhere else.

At the same time, the vast majority of PC gamers are, indeed, using mid-range hardware.  But PC gamers who care about graphics are not a vocal minority: we may be a minority in comparison to how many PC gamers have PCs that can pump out higher graphical settings, but if you've spent enough time in the PC gaming community, you'd know how important being able to "run" a game on "decent" settings is.  In fact, I haven't even seen any PC gamers ever say, "I just want to be able to play it smoothly on the lowest settings".  Graphics matter to PC gamers more than console gamers since we have the power to change what we get out of them, but the number of us who can crank them up are, indeed, a minority.

People didn't buy playstation consoles because of their power. So your assumption that people are buyin the PS4 because of it's power is not anywhere near factual. The PS4 is selling based on it's brand (2 out 3 consoles sold over 100 mil) and it's game library. It has a lot more exclusives than the xbox one and it has japanese games. It has a lot more games announced for it. I can understand if someone doesn't like japanese games all that much or many of the PS4's games but to the majority of gamers this gen, the PS4 has the best games and alot more diversity than the competition. 



JRPGfan said:
It makes it easier to go Playstation + PC route.... imo.

Correction: Playstation + Windows 10 route.  MS thanks you for the upgrade and the support.