You're getting an distorted feel of who she is. You're getting an inaccurate view of who she is. Comparing Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne to Zero Suit Samus doesn't work because, like I said, the suit by itself is not the problem. The character and design of Bruce Wayne and Tony Starke do not serve to undermine or objectify their super hero persona. They serve to humanize them. Zero Suit Samus does not humanize Samus, it only objectifies her. It. Doesn't. Fit. It doesn't "come with the territory." ZSS was designed to be objectifiable. She was designed to be cosplayed. She was designed, not to match her persona, not to add depth to the character, but to look young and blonde and petite and cute and that's it. It doesn't at all work with her universe. The Metroid universe was never neo-futuristic until Fusion. It was always retro-futuristic. It's based off Alien, not Star Trek. Metroid isn't "some" futuristic universe. It's Metroid. If they really cared about the character of Samus, she wouldn't look like a reject sci-fi Sailor Moon. Retro cared. That's why her look in Prime 1 works with her character. She doesn't look like a 17-year-old anime princess, she looks like a 30 year old seasoned bounty hunter. Still beautiful, frankly more beautiful than ZSS. Not needlessly objectified.

Samus doesn't even need to be out of her suit to give her character. Resorting to that doesn't showcase vulnerability, it showcases poor writing skills. I've read the manga, and its terrible. It is literally the tangable genesis for everything that is wrong with modern Metroid. The canonization of that abomination is the direct cause of the narrative filth that is Fusion and Other M.

No one has a problem with developing Samus as a person. No one has a problem with Samus not being in her Power Suit once in a while. I don't even care about characters being objectified. My biggest problem with modern Lara Croft is that she isn't obvjectified. What people care about is retaining the original intent of the character. If Gunpei Yokoi, the real creator of Metroid, was still alive, the ZSS abomination and everything else that spiraled out of that unreadable comic being canonized would have never seen the light of day. That's the big issue.

I agree with you about Samus physical appearence. It was designed to be this

Not this

I don't agree with you about her story and the Metroid universe itself though. Mainly because there are no signs of what the Metroid universe was like back in the 80's - 90's. Sure, some aspects of the original game itself were inspired by Alien, but I never felt like the Metroid universe was retro-futuristic. Hell, I wouldn't even dare to qualify the universe of the old Metroid games because of how little we saw about that. Therefore, I'm not uncomfortable with the "neo-futurtistic" style it has now.

As for the character of Samus, I have zero problems with anything we have seen so far (except for the manga, but that has more to do with it being very poorly written instead of depiting something I don't like).

There was in Super and in Return of Samus. You can see the retro-futuristic computors with the big, green, blocky fonts on them. It's etched into the design of the ship architecture. You can here it in the sound design of the ship/research facility in the beginning. You can see it in the way Samus is dressed in both Return and Super. It's in the way the HUD and menus are designed. It's incredebly imperceptive to say there were no signs of what the Metroid universe were back then.

Samus in Fusion, Zero Mission, and Other M draw their characterization directly from that manga. It's the same canon. You may not have a problem with poorly written garble. Most people do.

There was in Super and in Return of Samus. You can see the retro-futuristic computors with the big, green, blocky fonts on them. It's etched into the design of the ship architecture. You can here it in the sound design of the ship/research facility in the beginning. You can see it in the way Samus is dressed in both Return and Super. It's in the way the HUD and menus are designed. It's incredebly imperceptive to say there were no signs of what the Metroid universe were back then.

Samus in Fusion, Zero Mission, and Other M draw their characterization directly from that manga. It's the same canon. You may not have a problem with poorly written garble. Most people do.

And for someone who has that opinion thing on the signature, you defend your opinions with such strenght that one would think you don't respect other's opinions.

I'm done here.

You're getting an distorted feel of who she is. You're getting an inaccurate view of who she is. Comparing Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne to Zero Suit Samus doesn't work because, like I said, the suit by itself is not the problem. The character and design of Bruce Wayne and Tony Starke do not serve to undermine or objectify their super hero persona. They serve to humanize them. Zero Suit Samus does not humanize Samus, it only objectifies her. It. Doesn't. Fit. It doesn't "come with the territory." ZSS was designed to be objectifiable. She was designed to be cosplayed. She was designed, not to match her persona, not to add depth to the character, but to look young and blonde and petite and cute and that's it. It doesn't at all work with her universe. The Metroid universe was never neo-futuristic until Fusion. It was always retro-futuristic. It's based off Alien, not Star Trek. Metroid isn't "some" futuristic universe. It's Metroid. If they really cared about the character of Samus, she wouldn't look like a reject sci-fi Sailor Moon. Retro cared. That's why her look in Prime 1 works with her character. She doesn't look like a 17-year-old anime princess, she looks like a 30 year old seasoned bounty hunter. Still beautiful, frankly more beautiful than ZSS. Not needlessly objectified.

Samus doesn't even need to be out of her suit to give her character. Resorting to that doesn't showcase vulnerability, it showcases poor writing skills. I've read the manga, and its terrible. It is literally the tangable genesis for everything that is wrong with modern Metroid. The canonization of that abomination is the direct cause of the narrative filth that is Fusion and Other M.

No one has a problem with developing Samus as a person. No one has a problem with Samus not being in her Power Suit once in a while. I don't even care about characters being objectified. My biggest problem with modern Lara Croft is that she isn't obvjectified. What people care about is retaining the original intent of the character. If Gunpei Yokoi, the real creator of Metroid, was still alive, the ZSS abomination and everything else that spiraled out of that unreadable comic being canonized would have never seen the light of day. That's the big issue.