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This is why NX needs to launch with specs that cross completely into 9th gen territory. Nintendo can't expect to launch a console halfway through a generation and be successful within that generation. They need to target PS5/XB2 with this one or they're really screwed.



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2017 isn't even the "mid point" of the generation, it would be the late point of the generation (last 1/3).



First of all, "generations" don't actually matter all that much. Any businessperson would take a strong sales rate and solid profit margin over having a shot at "winning" a generation any day. They're relatively artificial constructs that no person or company should be bound by.

As for rivaling the PS4 in yearly sales, if they have third party support that is just as good, then yes, they have a chance. If they come up with a new gimmick/innovation that goes viral, then yes, they have a chance.

Otherwise, no.

Nintendo is a brand in decline. They have to fix that. They can no longer depend on simply being Nintendo in order to win new consumers.



I almost wonder if NX is going to be some kind of funky/weird mobile "terminal" that has a screen on it + some kind of control mechanism that encourages people to "gather around" it (that would seem Nintendo-ey). Something fairly different in other words.



HylianYoshi said:
This is why NX needs to launch with specs that cross completely into 9th gen territory. Nintendo can't expect to launch a console halfway through a generation and be successful within that generation. They need to target PS5/XB2 with this one or they're really screwed.

^ You really want that 600$ nintendo console?

How often has nintendo used leading edge proccessing node technology? or gone big & costly chip designs for their consoles? or even just gone for high performance (instead of eco friendly and cool&quiet)?.

 

Im just saying Im not sure nintendo are capable of pulling off a "early" forced 9th gen start, by makeing a super powerfull console for its time.


Whats more likely is nintendo makes a console about as strong as a PS4, for around the same price, and finally "join" the 8th gen of consoles (performance wise). Then they need to make this one last from 2016 -> 2020, and have a new console ready for the launch of the PS5.

 

pokoko said:
First of all, "generations" don't actually matter all that much. Any businessperson would take a strong sales rate and solid profit margin over having a shot at "winning" a generation any day. They're relatively artificial constructs that no person or company should be bound by.

As for rivaling the PS4 in yearly sales, if they have third party support that is just as good, then yes, they have a chance. If they come up with a new gimmick/innovation that goes viral, then yes, they have a chance.

Otherwise, no.

Nintendo is a brand in decline. They have to fix that. They can no longer depend on simply being Nintendo in order to win new consumers.

^ this.

NX is where nintendo aim to reclaim, consumer trust.

It needs to be a good system in terms of features (compaired to the PS4 & XB1) and offer basically everything they also do.

That ontop of getting 3rd party back, is how nintendo slowly claw its way back.

 

If they go for some gimmick and it fails to wow consumers..... ready for wii U 2.0 ? but maybe even less sales?



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Soundwave said:
I almost wonder if NX is going to be some kind of funky/weird mobile "terminal" that has a screen on it + some kind of control mechanism that encourages people to "gather around" it (that would seem Nintendo-ey). Something fairly different in other words.

I don't think Nintendo will aim for funky, or at least, that funky. People can understand the idea of a Fusion system: you can play the same games on a home console and a handheld. It's not rocket science. But if they start to make odd devices, they will be ignored by everyone: the casuals won't care because it's too complicated, the core gamers won't take it seriously, and the faithful Nintendo fans won't be there in enough numbers to support it.

Nintendo needs a concept that works. The last thing Nintendo needs is another VirtualBoy.



You know it deserves the GOTY.

Come join The 2018 Obscure Game Monthly Review Thread.

nope, thats why its not gonna be a standart console



If Nintendo planned it right, it won't be competing with PS4/X1. It'll be competing with PS5/X2. If this is the case then I think they'll be fine. But not because of the console itself. What will sell will be the cross platform play between the console and handheld. If Nintendo and NX take off like it should, then I'm expecting a combined 100+ million units lifetime.



No. But the NX isnt a home console (if its set to come out this year).

For their next home console they have to aim to come out at the same time as the PS5 and XO2 with a similar ammount of process power. Anything less and they don't have any chance.

Or...

They aim towards the casual market again with a Wii "2".

Soundwave said:
I almost wonder if NX is going to be some kind of funky/weird mobile "terminal" that has a screen on it + some kind of control mechanism that encourages people to "gather around" it (that would seem Nintendo-ey). Something fairly different in other words.

I do believe you are on the ballpark.



JRPGfan said:
HylianYoshi said:
This is why NX needs to launch with specs that cross completely into 9th gen territory. Nintendo can't expect to launch a console halfway through a generation and be successful within that generation. They need to target PS5/XB2 with this one or they're really screwed.

^ You really want that 600$ nintendo console?

How often has nintendo used leading edge proccessing node technology? or gone big & costly chip designs for their consoles? or even just gone for high performance (instead of eco friendly and cool&quiet)?.

 

Im just saying Im not sure nintendo are capable of pulling off a "early" forced 9th gen start, by makeing a super powerfull console for its time.


Whats more likely is nintendo makes a console about as strong as a PS4, for around the same price, and finally "join" the 8th gen of consoles (performance wise). Then they need to make this one last from 2016 -> 2020, and have a new console ready for the launch of the PS5.

$600? No. If Nintendo chose the more powerful route, they really should start off selling that thing at a loss to make sure that it gets some sort of install base early, even if it only inches along before the competition catches up. I see more like $450-$500 range. NX is gonna flop hardcore if it joins in this late and can't even keep itself up into 9th gen. Especially with the PS4/XB1 already having a large library and a big install base+.



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