The Death Star lasers focusing was BS. As was using a giant Laser to blow a planet up. Or giant space snails...

As for the planets that where destroyed: I felt as much for them as for Alderaans... Stalin: One dead is tragedy, one million dead is statistics.

The one i felt something for watching ANH for the first time was Leia. Not Alderaan.

Why they where wiped out? Because they where the core planets of the new republic with the government seat and the stationed fleet, something that was explained in length.

Now for reactions: We basically know that people are at best in a shock state after big catastrophies, in any case they need time to realize what happened and so on. Leia already experienced the destruction of Alderaan, her son turning to the dark side and so on. At the same time she's become an old war horse, already having been pretty tough from the very beginning. Hell, she already stood up to Vader and Tarkin being not much more than a kid.

The same goes for the double duel in the end. Kylo being critically wounded by a fucking Wookie crossbow which usually kills people and not yet well trained in lightsaber fighting stands up against a very well trained ex-stormtrooper and a girl that was running around with her fighting stick all the time. If he hadn't been shot he still would've defeated both of them easily.

The other stuff, most of it doesn't need to be explained. Han and Leia talking about having lost their son actually tells you everything you need to know. And Luke, maybe he went away because he realized he'd done the same mistakes his mentors had made before.

Canonwise, the canon Lucas created with the prequels, that is exactly what Obi Wan and Yoda did. So if you're pissed here you should be as well pissed there.

Kylo Ren takes information out of peoples mind with the force, he even says "I can take whatever i want"

When he tries to read Rey, she not only can resist him but is able to read him as well.

In the fight at the end he even tells her that he could teach her, reminding her that he has all the knowledge she needs to beat him. She just concentrates and takes it from him. She may even have tapped into the dark side, judging by how she looks and fights after that.

It certainly is the weakest of the movies stiry and plot wise. Really it just copied a New Hope abd the writing was poor. The best thing about it were the old characters qnd seeing Han/Chewie were the only exciting tjings in the movie. I wanted to like it, but I was more impressed with the Phantom Menace and never got the hate of the movie as I left the theater with a smile on my face compared to The Force Awakens and so did my bro (who was an original SW fan from the 70s) as we seen both films together. The movie is overrated from those who can not except that it is no more than average down to mediocre. I prefer JJ's Star Trek movies to this.

None of that makes sense and ruins the way the firce works. It should have been impossible for Rey to use the force and fight on par with Kylo, let along defeat him. The plot was weak period no matter how you spin it. Kylo was weak too and I did not like the choice of his actor or how he sounded when he took his helmet off. He was a fake Vader, which further ruined the movie.

It makes sense in the context of the information this movie has given us. And at least it makes more sense then dismissing stuff because you personally didn't like it.

And complaining how the movie copied the original Star Wars and then complaining that they do something different? Make up your mind or don't argue.

Also, if you call that poor writing then you must totally hate the prequels, right?

...and i'm pretty sure there is no such thing as the firce.

No it does not make sense going by Star War's history and lore, which you don't appear to realize. A force user has always needed training and an understanding of how the force works whether Jedi or Sith. So it has nothing to do with personal like and just facts that you cannot dispute.

The movie was unoriginal in plot and setup. Changing a history of more than 30 years about how the force works is contradicting what the force is all about, not doing something new so you are wrong again.

The problem with the prequels reside within the cinematography and not the writing as far as the SW universe goes, it was good.

Obviously I made a typing error, but those who lose an argument has to grasp at any thing they can.

Luke hardly had any training when he used the force to make the impossible shot to take out the death star. Even the couple of days he had with Yoda later was hardly much, but Yoda himself said he doesn't need more when he returned to him in Jedi.

And prequel trilogy is weak in writing, cinematography and making any sense whatsoever.

Yes, you made a typo and i thought it was funny to point it out, that has nothing to do with grasping at straws.

You have yet to explain how my original post doesn't make sense other than you disagree.

It does not matter how much training Luke had, he had training and Obi Wan guiding him as well which played a big role in Luke's progression. Really man do you even understand the concept of the force? Luke did not fight and win against someone more skilled than he was. Everything Luke did was explained throughout the movies and they could not show every thing Obi taught him. Think back to what we saw when Luke covered his eyes withe the blast shield helmet so he could since the what direction that little ball's beam was coming from. He used the same technique to guide his blast against the death star's seak point.

Boom! I'm out.

Luke's training literally consisted of him spending a few hours knocking back lasers from a floating ball. Nevermind that when he made that impossible shot, he had NEVER flown an X-Wing in his life. He had never flown any space-worthy craft for that matter. He had never been in a dogfight before. He was literally just a farm boy he bullseyed womprats in a T-16 (whatever that was supposed to be at the time). That's it.

Rey spent her entire life around space ships, in a dangerous desert, beating the crap out of people with her stick. She was clearly already accessing her force powers pretty early in the morning, and as Anakin showed in the prequels, you don't even need ANY training to utilize some basic aspects of the force. The kid was flying around in podracers (something no human was supposed to be able to do) before he ever even met Qui-gon Jinn.

Neither Luke or Anakin needed much training to access their force powers. Rey, at the very least, has lived a life where she had to fight for a living. You do need training to access the full depths of your force powers, naturally. Rey clearly hasn't gotten there yet. She only beat Kylo Ren because the dude was already wounded from a blaster shot that would take out most other people. If he wasn't wounded, you can bet it would have gone the other way. As he was, even an ex-Storm Trooper who WASN'T force sensitive was able to hold his own against him for a little while.

Luke had experience flying a space craft which is why he was able to succeed. He was planning to leave and join the resistance which is Uncle tried to keep him from. Luke was the prophecy which explained his success and Anakin was the prophecy that destroyed the Republic. Everything was explained unlike Rey and how she so happened to use the force with zero understanding. Enough bs excuses about how she was able to beat Kylo. "Living a life where she had to fight for a living"? lol she was a scavenger, not a warrior. Give it a rest already. Her character was "forced" and nothing more.