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gentii said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Why are you looking for games that were never meant to be heavy hitters? I think you're doing this intentionally to artificiially weigh your argument.  THe last franchise Sony billed as being the future of their company was the The Last of Us. Beyond was never meant to be a heavy hitter. It should've sold better, but no first party company takes more risk than Sony when it comes to game development. I think by now that should be undisputed. Anyway, The last game you should be referencing is the Last of Us.

 

 

so is this a non hit game ? hahaha ? Sorry m8 but you answer is so wrong about how the Horizon will beat Zelda  BoTW ? 

Infamous Second Son 2.82m 

Sony billed the game as being the future of their brand. This means they expect upwards 5 million in sales or more, which is in the Gears of War, Uncharted and Last of Us wheel house. 5M+ Sellers only. This would put Zelda in the same wheel house as Zelda in terms of expected reception.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
gentii said:

 

 

so is this a non hit game ? hahaha ? Sorry m8 but you answer is so wrong about how the Horizon will beat Zelda  BoTW ? 

Infamous Second Son 2.82m 

Sony billed the game as being the future of their brand. This means they expect upwards 5 million in sales or more.

     
You r totally wrong cose this game have  a great score number from the most trusted rewiewers ?  If you say thats a 9/10 its a non hits game its you problem not mine? Sorry this its the last answer to you cose im playing a non hit gamer like Battlefield 1 in my Xbox One
     Beyond: Two Souls9/10GameSpot
 Infamous Second Son8.7/10IGN.com
  Killzone Shadow Fall8/10IGN.com



gentii said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Sony billed the game as being the future of their brand. This means they expect upwards 5 million in sales or more.

     
You r totally wrong cose this game have  a great score number from the most trusted rewiewers ?  If you say thats a 9/10 its a non hits game its you problem not mine? Sorry this its the last answer to you cose im playing a non hit gamer like Battlefield 1 in my Xbox One
     Beyond: Two Souls9/10GameSpot
 Infamous Second Son8.7/10IGN.com
  Killzone Shadow Fall8/10IGN.com

If you're going by that you need to use aggregate scores, not one site. 



Nice thread. I just want both games to be good as each one looks totally amazing in my opinion. Slightly bummed I don't have a PS4 Pro but at least I'll get to play Zelda on the Switch. Have no idea how to find the time to properly play both games, though.



I will say from what little I've seen from this game - If not for Zelda BoW I'd be extremely jealous as an XB One/future Switch owner as this is about the one PS4 exclusive that I really want to try as it really looks damn cool.. I think it'll be a close race both quality and sales wise, though if this Zelda trends more towards open world/TP/oldschool in style as opposed to the more Skyward Sword/Wind Waker puzzelda style - as I believe it will - I think BoW will edge it out in both.. 



 

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Louie said:
Nice thread. I just want both games to be good as each one looks totally amazing in my opinion. Slightly bummed I don't have a PS4 Pro but at least I'll get to play Zelda on the Switch. Have no idea how to find the time to properly play both games, though.

Horizon will take upwards 40 hours as it is an action rpg. From my experience with Zelda, that was a similar time range.



twintail said:
Atm I think Horizon is doing the better job but thats only because we have seen so little of Zelda.

Will be interesting though, Sony might have a winner experience on their hands.

H: ZD is nothing to be dismissed out of hand. It's about robot dinosaurs vs a DIY techie cavegirl.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
gentii said:

God of War is the highest selling hack n slash franchise of all time. Thats undisputed at this point. As far as the highest selling Sony games go, the last of us sold about twelve million between the PS3 and PS4.  That was a new IP mind you.

I do believe that title goes to the Diablo franchise.



Helloplite said:
TheBlackNaruto said:

Whyw ould you pick just this one review(or preview whatever it is lol) when there are FAR more that say the game is amazing?

Did you check out any of the other reviews? Ones like this one are rare but others have been giving the game all praise so I would say check them out heck the game is currently sitting at what an 88 or 89 average so it did something right!

Read it first. It's neither a review nor a preview. It is a specific article illustrating the problems of game design in Horizon. And yes these problems do not fit with a game that seeks to outdo Zelda - which are typically showcases of excellent game design. Do people seriously get excited about graphics in this day and age? I am too old to care about visual appearance of a game. Game design and level design is where it's at for me. 

I read it and saw that but it doesn't seem to fit the general opinion of the game which is why I found it odd that you picked this one in particular. And I never said anything about graphics so that does not apply to me lol even though I think on a technical/grpahical level Horizion easily takes the cake where as on an artisitic side I give it to Zelda. Also I am not in the camp that thinks this game is looking to outdo Zelda I think it is an odd comparission personally and think that this was only done because both are "Open world games"(despite being in a thread about the predicition of it). The game and level design from what we have seen of this game looks great so if that is where it is at for you then you should be looking forward to this game as well.



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gentii said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

God of War was not the most anticipated of PS3 exclusive games. Last of US, Uncharted 2, God of War and Uncharted 3 were. God of War had lesser reviews, compared to previous games because they were trying to get onto the multiplayer bandwagon and botched the effort. That and Trials of Archemedes spooked average gamers from playing god of war. It probably hindered many from beating the game. Mind you, I am comparing Zelda Botw with last of us because much like Horizon, it was a new IP last gen that Sony claimed would be their helm title. It worked out and Horizon should enjoy good sales. Sony didnt publicize God of War Ascension like 3 for a reason.

Beyond: Two Souls 1.63m ?  

Why did you pick games like GOW A and Beyond Two Souls? When talking about Most Anticipated games for Sony? I thought thouse belonged to games like Uncharted, The Last of Us, Gran Turismo, GOW(the 3 main line games), Metal Gear Solid 4, Heck even Killzone 2 was one of the most anticipated Sony games and I am sure that did at least 3 million. I would have even given you The LAst Gurdian as I feel it was a most aniticpated game seeing as it was in development for 50yrs(not litereally but you get my point lol).

I think you are confusing Most Anticipated with games that were rated decent to good to great. I will give you Infamous Second Son and KZ. SF though as I feel both fo those games should have did better sales wise but are by no means sales duds. I do think you are under eastimating Horizon though saying that Zelda will "easily" outsell it which for it to be "easily" I would say it would mean by what a few million? I think Horizion has a chance to sell between 4-5 million maybe even more and I can't see BoTW wild doing any less than 5 million. I mean it is the first Zelda game in a LONG time AND it will be on 2 systems with one being a luanch system...yeah ANYTHING less than 5 million for BoTW would be below expectations IMO. But we shall see! I think both games will sell great and will score great with Horizion already starting it off sitting on an 88!



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