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binary solo said:
jason1637 said:
Those numbers are the whole NA. so I can see x1 beating the ps4 in NA but not in the USA

Extremely unlikely that the whole 110K comes from outside the USA.

Also from the latest MS PR it looks like VGC is undertracking if indeed the 22% YoY increase is actual hardware sell through numbers.


90K, not 110K (more shattering 89K). The placement of the numbers on the chart is confusing and threw me off for a moment, too.



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SWORDF1SH said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Damn, that reply is both hilarious and embarassing to read. Can you leave me out of your console warz stuff, please? I mean.. congratulations? Who the heck would I be congratulating? Sony? Does Kenny K lurk here or something? PS4 owners? I am one myself. Should I give myself a pat on the back? LOL. Congratulations.

It should be a surprise any time the Xbox beats the PS4 in a sales situation. Again, if the numbers are true. Which as I said, they probably aren't, because it wouldn't make sense. I hope that helps.

You do have a more negative stance towards PS4 and I've seen you on many occasions in the trenches of the console wars so I don't think you can take the moral high ground here.

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I would be really shocked if these end up being the final numbers



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Serious_frusting said:
I would be really shocked if these end up being the final numbers


As lord of lightning, you should always be in shock :p



trunkswd said:
WebMasterFlex said:


Good to know

If you or anyone else finds our numbers are off from official numbers feel free to post in this thread (http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=209513&page=1) with what is wrong and a link to the source.


It would be good if that thread was a permanent pin on the home page so people don't have to go looking for it and it's there as a constant reminder. 



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Yeah, there's no way the XBone sold more than the PS4 in November.



tak13 said:
binary solo said:
jason1637 said:
Those numbers are the whole NA. so I can see x1 beating the ps4 in NA but not in the USA

Extremely unlikely that the whole 110K comes from outside the USA.

Also from the latest MS PR it looks like VGC is undertracking if indeed the 22% YoY increase is actual hardware sell through numbers.


22% up  over the last year's black friday not whole november!:P ;P :P

And I'm only talking about BF week's numbers. Whole of NA is only 16% up on US BF week last year. That means VGC is putting US BF week as flat YoY. It's pretty hard to make BF week flat YoY if BF itself is up 22%.



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GribbleGrunger said:

This is just ridiculous and these numbers are going to be put up on N4Gs and then spread to other sites. Preorders of Halo (the worse performing Halo to date) managed to help the XB1 pip the PS4 by 27k, while three months preorders of Star wars, three months preorders of Black Ops 3, a month of winning on Amazon, and winning Black Friday, made the PS4 lose by 90k.

The PS4 would have won this month by at least 100k in the US.


PS4 won both Black Friday and Nov NPD, I'm ready to place a bet with everyone !  VGC numbers are a joke, the biggest surprise is that many people still can't realize that...

VGC know PS4 should be right now at 31.4/31.5M Global user base by the week ending 28th, but deliberately they are undertracking PS4 by at least 1M, after only a week! How can you even consider them ?? 



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Colltrain said:
Lol its great seeing so many people getting upset by console sale numbers.....mmm congratulations Microsoft 😇


Of course a Xbonx fan does like these numbers, but yeah, they are horrible wrong.

True Number looks more like this

Ps4 - 31,5 Millions ( right now )

Xbone - 13,5 Millions ( right now )

As long MS doesnt give us real Xbone number, i know, that they not reached milestones like 15 millions or more



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zealen said:
So PS4 couldn't win on North America? That's surprising

Well UK had PS4 topping which is a little surprising with contrast to this VGC numbers. Are the numbers final or do we have to wait for the NPD official reveal? I guess I will wait for NPD data.