I want to believe.

More and more people interested in a console will already have chosen in 2017 or 2018 if Nintendo doesn't try to stay relevant next year, only a fraction of the gamers will buy two or all three consoles of a generation. Settling for the "secondary console" target group won't work well and won't bring third party support back.

Why are you so obsessed with this anyway? What difference does it make when the NX comes? And why should anyone listen to one person on an anonymous forum in the ocean of evidence and pointers towards the contrary?
You tell people not to believe what they read and hear, yet you tell them that you're right, just because you say so.
I think I do get it, the 8th gen has progressed almost exactly like I said it would a couple of years back, with some exceptions, of course.
Where on earth does a person get an attitude like this?

Saying things like "It would be completely dumb to release the next home console in 2016. We discussed that before." to simply disqualify everyone and everything going against you is ridiculous; as if your word alone can cut down any semblance of discussion on the matter.
" And I said it before: thr next home console launch in late 2017. That's almost fact. Deal with it." There is literally not a shred of evidence for this, there's only your personal conviction, which isn't exactly water-tight as fact or proof.

"Probably because the majority in this community believes every shit on the internet. Don't trust those people. These leakers a lifeless idiots. Don't gibe them the attention they want. Be a smart person :)"

And you, of course, are a smart person, far smarter than me or anyone else here who don't agree. You have the most illogical and backwards arguments I've seen since late last year and early this year, when a few of the good old dudes were still rampaging on the forums with posts going totally in the face of everything and everyone with not so much as a smidge of evidence or grounded reasoning.

"And you're talking like you were some sort of prophet who talks about NX to come in 2016. Just saying. You don't know, I don't know. And the pointers you see may mean nothing."

And the (non-existant) pointers you see mean everything, obviously.

"As I said. On NX in 2017. Learn reading mate."

Because your word is law, apparently. Who are you anyway? This is ridiculous.

You're making about 0% sense in here, there is not one single indicator on this globe of what you're claiming, besides your claims in and on themselves.

No, that's wrong. As I said this would have no longer been the Twilight Princess case but the The Last of Us case. Many people bought the remastered version one year later and it would have been the same with the Wii version of Twilight Princess if it would got released a year later.

And it's also wrong that those 3 million are the sales that got taken away from the GCN version because not everybody who bought Twilight Princess for Wii at launch had a Gamecube. 

So, Nintendo will be more relevant when people choose a PS4 over NX in 2016? Doesn't make sense mate. They need to go away from these choices and have to make sure that there's no other choice than getting a NX because they already own a PS4. And it would work better than just throwing out a console and get bashed by the PS4.

Third Party support returns when Nintendo supports them more and makes it easier for them to develop for their consoles. If Nintendo sell their console successfully, which happens if you target people who already own another console (secondary console), Third Parties will fully return as their software will sell at least profitable.

And why should I believe you then? Your comment doesn't make sense in any way.

There are pointers in the other direction and if you would read my posts you would see that. Your pointers mean nothing.

I just don't trust every shit on the internet. I use my own brain and don't repeat that what one said and what the others say. I think about what could really happen.

And if you don't accept what I said as evidence for a 2017 release, where's the evidence for a 2016 release then? There's none, right.

Maybe the number of evidence for a 2016 release would be negative then.

I'm just stating the more probably things. If you don't understand that you should probably leave this thread. Thanky you.

you are working on the assumption that the nx will only be a home console. It will not be just that. The 3DS and the WiiU will be replaced by the end of next year

Nintendo can't "go away from these choices" and "make sure that there's no other choice than getting a NX"... there will always be choices. Why shouldn't PS4 and Xbox One and their huge game libraries be a valid choice anymore in 2017 or 2018 against NX? They will still get most AAA-titles of these years.

And waiting until the peak years of the competition have passed worked great for the Wii U, didn't it? Eventually it had 4 other home consoles (PS3 + 360 + PS4 + XBO) as competitors/choices instead of only 2.

It has nothing to do with leakers, it has to do with statements from Iwata such as saying they plan to redefine gaming in about 2 years back in May of 2014. And it has to do with the development cycles of major Nintendo teams.

That doesn't make economic sense and should know that. I explained that several times. Nintendo will keep producing dedicated handhelds and dedicated home consoles. and they will release them with one year in between. 

And I don't assume that the NX is the nest home console but since many in this community believe this I used NX short for "Nintendo's next home console".