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Dam that's quite a drop off.



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ethomaz said:
hudsoniscool said:
A guy from GAF IMPLIES that a game MIGHT have sold less than a million and it is then taken as a fact. Lol

2 GAF insiders confirmed less than 1m.

he denial around Halo numbers from some is real.


It may very well be true. Digital is way over 20% then.



Halo MCC will sell 5+ million copies(including digital)

halo 5 will sell 10 million copies(including digital)

x1 will pass ps4 in USA, and UK.

So this is the retail number without bundles and digital sales, right?



walsufnir said:
So this is the retail number without bundles and digital sales, right?


yes, so not quite as bad as some are making it out to be, since the 400 million did have to come from somewhere



Wonktonodi said:
walsufnir said:
So this is the retail number without bundles and digital sales, right?


yes, so not quite as bad as some are making it out to be, since the 400 million did have to come from somewhere


You should read the GAF thread. You can also find a famous VGC user there who seems quite happy to reiterate the number whenever possible.



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Arkaign said

Perhaps, though I think CoD+Star Wars will probably preclude that from being viable enough to save Halo 5 from being absolutely disastrous in terms of fall-off for the series. 

Now that I think about it, perhaps the overall disaster of October for everyone, that purchasing patterns have simply changed over recent years to the point where October is no longer a 'holiday' month more or less. It's so close to the big sales/deals, and people have seen year after year of great Black Friday and other shopping season specials that they are simply less likely to spend big in October and risk missing a deal where they get $100+ more value in a few weeks time.

In that case, releasing Halo 5 in October might have been disastrous, and we may see Halo 6 moved to a better date in the future.

Halo 5 would have done much more for Xbox brand imho if they launched it say on December 1st. CoD, Fallout, and Star Wars mania would have calmed a little bit and they could claim the only AAA release in December afaik. Releasing 5 days before the end of October kind of put the series legs at risk.

Ah who knows. All we can tell is that absolutely nobody won October, other than consumers that decided to wait for better deals that will surely come.

300k Xbox on Halo month sucks.

275k PS4 on price cut month sucks.

1m or less Halo 5 software sucks.

Maybe both systems can break 1M in November!

I agree with you about october is now more or less not a "holiday" month. I think those sales/deals and BF madness are now affecting october sales as most shoppers are waiting for those. 
Also Halo being release so close to COD and later BF might have an effect on its legs that why i also think UC4 being delayed is a good move either intentional or not because of those juggernaut games releasing at holiday season.

And yeah both console sales for october sucks didn't expect that, but i guess both will have massive november.



walsufnir said:
So this is the retail number without bundles and digital sales, right?

Can you at least admit that the game underperformed?



Wonktonodi said:
walsufnir said:
So this is the retail number without bundles and digital sales, right?


yes, so not quite as bad as some are making it out to be, since the 400 million did have to come from somewhere

The only possible explanation other than NPD being wrong (unlikely) is the 400 million is the shipped amount (Sounds like something MS would do, though, make no mistake, Sony's played sleight of hand with numbers reporting in the past, lumping hardware together and so on etc...  Microsoft doesn't own this kind of spin, they're just having to do more of it this gen than last).

Still, as I've said in earlier posts, Fallout 4 and November could very well be impacting sales in October as it has in December.  Maybe Shadow can crunch some numbers for the last several Octobers, like he did with Dec.



SWORDF1SH said:
walsufnir said:
So this is the retail number without bundles and digital sales, right?

Can you at least admit that the game underperformed?


It didn't sell as much as before but I don't know if the "less than 1M" statement is true. That said, it underperformed for a Halo game. For a game it still did very well.



Now can I not face denial of my prediction of U4 FW/LT > Halo 5?



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