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NewGuy said:
Protendo said:

I don't need to. I vote in the Republican primaries, not the Democratic ones. All numbers show that Bernie isn't a threat, to Republicans. His winning, would be great for the party.

So you have no logical reasons why you like Clinton better than Sanders. Got it!

All head to head shows that Sanders does better against Republicans than Clinton right now.

Ann Coulter would much, much rather run against Clinton than Sanders. Trump would love to run against Clinton.


Why are you trying to cause a fight? I have reasons. I also know not to waste my time when someone has already made up their mind.



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In the Ohio primary I am voting for Rand Paul



"I think it will be the HDS"-Me in regards to Nintendo's next handheld.

aLkaLiNE said:
Give me Sanders or give me Trump.

Who are you voting for in the primaries? If you are?

Protendo said:

Why are you trying to cause a fight? I have reasons. I also know not to waste my time when someone has already made up their mind.

Who buddy, just chill out! Seems like we both have made up our minds. Does that mean we can't have a civil discussion? Maybe you want to back up not because of facts, but because you want a woman president? Might be a weak reason, but it's not wrong, because it's your personal reason.



I vote for none. They all are terrible.

2k20 is going to be worse when celebrities will make it a clown house.



 

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12/22/2016- Made a bet with Ganoncrotch that the first 6 months of 2017 will be worse than 2016. A poll will be made to determine the winner. Loser has to take a picture of them imitating their profile picture.

hershel_layton said:
I vote for none. They all are terrible.

2k20 is going to be worse when celebrities will make it a clown house.


I can't wait for Kanye vs Miley!



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NewGuy said:
aLkaLiNE said:
Give me Sanders or give me Trump.

Who are you voting for in the primaries? If you are?

Protendo said:

Why are you trying to cause a fight? I have reasons. I also know not to waste my time when someone has already made up their mind.

Who buddy, just chill out! Seems like we both have made up our minds. Does that mean we can't have a civil discussion? Maybe you want to back up not because of facts, but because you want a woman president? Might be a weak reason, but it's not wrong, because it's your personal reason.

Do you consider calling someone illogical in a round about manner civil?



Hilly is the boss?

I thought she admitted herself that she is stupid, ignorant and irresponsible. I'm talking about her email thingy. Come on people, let's here some testimonials: what would your employer do to you if you were as stupid and irresponsible as to use your own email server to handle company emails? I know that I'd be fired in about one second and they'd probably try to have me locked up for criminal breach of trust if I did what Hilly did.

Is THAT the best we can possibly find in this country for the job of prez? I am sorry but it's not so. My little bitch - she's a Husky - would be a better prez than the Hillary. So, write her in. Her name is Blue and she's about 6 years old. Born in the USA. And, unlike Hillary, she's been immunized for rabies.

But I'm gonna give Hill one thing: she's hot, hot, hot! True MILF material.



Protendo said:
NewGuy said:

Who buddy, just chill out! Seems like we both have made up our minds. Does that mean we can't have a civil discussion? Maybe you want to back up not because of facts, but because you want a woman president? Might be a weak reason, but it's not wrong, because it's your personal reason.

Do you consider calling someone illogical in a round about manner civil?

I would just like to have a grown up discussion on why you like her better than Sanders. Apparently you don't....



Here is my criteria on what a good president needs to be:

1) Stop wasting billions on Israel. It's about time a president stops. We all know the reason that the presidents give the money is because they think it's "god's land". Enough of that. God's land shouldn't be made by illegal settlement.

2) No xenophobia of any kind. I don't want a president that hates people of any race, gender, culture, or religion. It's the 21st century for damn sake.

3) Stop the drug "war". We must be so civilized to waste so much money on a war over a plant that is not as harmful as people think. I mean, if weed is so dangerous, then why the hell is alcohol not illegal? oh wait...I forgot that there are almost no crimes that had weed as a cause to one's actions. Alcohol on the other hand...

4) Help women- Women are sadly still given second-class treatment in America(and around the world). We mustn't keep that going on.

5) Help minorities- This one is clear. Many minorities struggle still.

6) Don't let religion be with their presidency. Look, there's a reason why I don't care what our president's religion is(or none if they're atheist/agnostic). What I want is someone who can acknowledge the fact that their religion cannot interfere with the success of America. Israel for instance. I am pretty sure that any president who didn't think Israel was "god's land" would still waste billions giving paychecks to Israel. trump's comments on wanting to help the Christians in america scares me. I mean, Bible-thumpers(and no I am not talking to you polite christians) already create enough garbage with me. Now they can have more power, calling anyone a xenophobe if they utter any criticism of Christianity?

7) Interact- Presidents should interact with the people. It's what our former presidents(such as Abe Lincoln) used to do. It wouldn't kill them to go out into the sunlight and see their nation's people.

That's all. Those elements would make for a decent president. I can't say good as their political views may not be "good to you", but good to someone else.



 

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NewGuy said:
Protendo said:

Hilary will win the election, she i the only one that can get the swing voters. I will vote Republican over Bernie, and convince everyone I know not to vote for Bernie. 

The BS propaganda or consiracy theorists will not stop that from happening.


You haven't answered on why you think she's better than Bernie. I think Sanders has a way better chance to convert swing voters, like me, to vote democrat. I'm an independent voter. 

Why are you so against Sanders and in favor of Clinton? Logical reasons, please.

SlayerRondo said:

To be clear, no matter what your opinion on government involvement in healthcare is, healthcare in neither a right nor a privilege, it is a service.


It's okay to think like that, but you must apply that logic to schools, medicare, social security, etc

That is correct, but I have never thought of such things in terms of rights as it tends to muddle the waters.

The first step to agreement in understanding and when we allow terms to become abused we lose sight of this.



This is the Game of Thrones

Where you either win

or you DIE