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Lawlight said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Most of them. I've never had to fiddle with drivers/settings etc. Get the odd time where a game won't start until I've downloaded a driver update but that's not exactly hard. Besides, speaking of updates 99% of the time they are automatic anyways. Windows does most of them automatically, usually including driver updates. While Steam auto downloads any necessary game updates. PS3 only does that if you pay for PS+, while I'm not aware of either the PS4 or Xbox One being able to do that yet. So that 'frequent updates required' thing isn't really a thing. Updates are done much more in the background and you rarely notice them, same can't really be said for consoles. As for extra space... well you know a laptop could be used for PC gaming too right? Besides I expect the vast majority of people already have a computer + desk for other purposes anyways so it's not as if it's any more space than was being taken up by your old PC anyway.


Just a random example, Google The Witcher 3 PC issues drivers, you'll get plenty of hits.

I said frequent upgrades, not update. Updates are done in the background for the PS4 as well.

Gaming on a laptop is the most uncomfortable thing ever and you're still left with the final issue. So. I think all of them are true.

And gaming at a desk, cut out from your partner or family, who wants that? I know I did when I was a teenager.

Oh well that's even easier to counter then. I've had my current PC since 2011, haven't done a single upgrade to it and I can still buy and play new games on it.

Conversely I bought a PS3 in 2011. That broke in 2012 so I had to upgrade to a super slim. Then in 2013 upgraded again to a PS4. ugh, so many upgrades needed to play PS games!



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I have my PC with an I7 overclocked since 2009 still going strong, only xhanged GPU, but that computer was way better than PS4. I like PC, ipads and consoles all have their strengts and weakness. Since i dont game much i use PC at work, ipads infront on tv and once in a while a console for gaiming.



Ka-pi96 said:
Lawlight said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Most of them. I've never had to fiddle with drivers/settings etc. Get the odd time where a game won't start until I've downloaded a driver update but that's not exactly hard. Besides, speaking of updates 99% of the time they are automatic anyways. Windows does most of them automatically, usually including driver updates. While Steam auto downloads any necessary game updates. PS3 only does that if you pay for PS+, while I'm not aware of either the PS4 or Xbox One being able to do that yet. So that 'frequent updates required' thing isn't really a thing. Updates are done much more in the background and you rarely notice them, same can't really be said for consoles. As for extra space... well you know a laptop could be used for PC gaming too right? Besides I expect the vast majority of people already have a computer + desk for other purposes anyways so it's not as if it's any more space than was being taken up by your old PC anyway.


Just a random example, Google The Witcher 3 PC issues drivers, you'll get plenty of hits.

I said frequent upgrades, not update. Updates are done in the background for the PS4 as well.

Gaming on a laptop is the most uncomfortable thing ever and you're still left with the final issue. So. I think all of them are true.

And gaming at a desk, cut out from your partner or family, who wants that? I know I did when I was a teenager.

Oh well that's even easier to counter then. I've had my current PC since 2011, haven't done a single upgrade to it and I can still buy and play new games on it.

Conversely I bought a PS3 in 2011. That broke in 2012 so I had to upgrade to a super slim. Then in 2013 upgraded again to a PS4. ugh, so many upgrades needed to play PS games!


I'm sure many people have had hardware issues with PC as well. I've had my PS3 for 6 years and still running very well. Playing Grid 2 atm. In that time, I've had 2 laptops with the 2nd one not being able to run without being connected. My work laptop has had its screen replaced twice. My current work laptop had one BSOD.



Lawlight said:

Just a random example, Google The Witcher 3 PC issues drivers, you'll get plenty of hits.

  • "The Witcher 3 PC issues": 8.5 million results
  • "The Witcher 3 PS4 issues": 7.1 million results
  • "The Witcher 3 Xbox issues": 7.9 million results

Yeah, big difference. ;)



Conina said:
Lawlight said:

Just a random example, Google The Witcher 3 PC issues drivers, you'll get plenty of hits.

  • "The Witcher 3 PC issues": 8.5 million results
  • "The Witcher 3 PS4 issues": 7.1 million results
  • "The Witcher 3 Xbox issues": 7.9 million results

Yeah, big difference. ;)


That's not how it works. The PS4 issues could be software bugs. That's why I said drivers.



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Lawlight said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Lawlight said:
zero129 said:
Lawlight said:


Actually, with the PS4, it's all done in the background but you're still not going to run into issues running the game. There's a plethora of issues that you could run into with a PC.

What's not fun about gaming on a PC (other than the library missing games that I want):

- constant fiddling with drivers, settings, etc.

- frequent upgrades required.

- requires extra space to set up the desktop, monitor, input devices.

- having to play with kb/m in MP just because everyone else is.

Im not even going to waste my time giving you a reply to what you just wrote other then to say in every pc thread you always lie about stuff to make it look bad. Exactly why do you do that? what is it about pc gaming that makes you feel like you have to do such things?..

Which of those is a lie?

Most of them. I've never had to fiddle with drivers/settings etc. Get the odd time where a game won't start until I've downloaded a driver update but that's not exactly hard. Besides, speaking of updates 99% of the time they are automatic anyways. Windows does most of them automatically, usually including driver updates. While Steam auto downloads any necessary game updates. PS3 only does that if you pay for PS+, while I'm not aware of either the PS4 or Xbox One being able to do that yet. So that 'frequent updates required' thing isn't really a thing. Updates are done much more in the background and you rarely notice them, same can't really be said for consoles. As for extra space... well you know a laptop could be used for PC gaming too right? Besides I expect the vast majority of people already have a computer + desk for other purposes anyways so it's not as if it's any more space than was being taken up by your old PC anyway.


Just a random example, Google The Witcher 3 PC issues drivers, you'll get plenty of hits.

I said frequent upgrades, not update. Updates are done in the background for the PS4 as well.

Gaming on a laptop is the most uncomfortable thing ever and you're still left with the final issue. So. I think all of them are true.

And gaming at a desk, cut out from your partner or family, who wants that? I know I did when I was a teenager.

Google The Witcher 3 Ps4 perfomance issues that took a number of patchs to fix. also well your add it google Assassins Creed Unity PS4 issues..

The Witcher 3 ran smooter on PC then it did on PS4.

Its also lies what your saying about frequent upgrades as you really dont need to upgrade that often unless you want to run everything at max settings (Something console gamers cant do anyways), Like i said i still have an old PC that can run everything thats out today with some settings turned down.

And who says you have to use a desk? if your using your PC for gaming why not just plug it into your tv and set steam big picture mode to boot at start up then its pretty much the same as a console once you plug a joypad in. If this is an issue why not get a steam link for when your gaming on your tv?

You have no excuse for the FUD campaign your running against PC on this site other then whatever kind of fear you have of pc gamers..



SvennoJ said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Lawlight said:
zero129 said:
Lawlight said:


Actually, with the PS4, it's all done in the background but you're still not going to run into issues running the game. There's a plethora of issues that you could run into with a PC.

What's not fun about gaming on a PC (other than the library missing games that I want):

- constant fiddling with drivers, settings, etc.

- frequent upgrades required.

- requires extra space to set up the desktop, monitor, input devices.

- having to play with kb/m in MP just because everyone else is.

Im not even going to waste my time giving you a reply to what you just wrote other then to say in every pc thread you always lie about stuff to make it look bad. Exactly why do you do that? what is it about pc gaming that makes you feel like you have to do such things?..

Which of those is a lie?

Most of them. I've never had to fiddle with drivers/settings etc. Get the odd time where a game won't start until I've downloaded a driver update but that's not exactly hard. Besides, speaking of updates 99% of the time they are automatic anyways. Windows does most of them automatically, usually including driver updates. While Steam auto downloads any necessary game updates. PS3 only does that if you pay for PS+, while I'm not aware of either the PS4 or Xbox One being able to do that yet. So that 'frequent updates required' thing isn't really a thing. Updates are done much more in the background and you rarely notice them, same can't really be said for consoles. As for extra space... well you know a laptop could be used for PC gaming too right? Besides I expect the vast majority of people already have a computer + desk for other purposes anyways so it's not as if it's any more space than was being taken up by your old PC anyway.


It's definitely not constant, but on consoles I've never had to go on message boards and get recommended to try a beta driver to try to fix problems. Never had problems with sound disappearing or lose all my controller bindings. Also far less random crashes or severe random slowdown during gameplay forcing me to go into settings and find a better performance profile.

You have a lot more freedom with PC but that sometimes comes at a price. My kids love Minecraft mods, I can't stand them. I'm the one they always come to when it crashes or they've loaded it up with a bunch of incompatible mods for different game / forge / java versions and it won't start.

It depends a bit on how you game. If you play hours a day on PC you won't notice all the updates, configuring settings and getting drivers once in a while are just a minor blip compared to a 60 hour game. If you game once or twice a week on PC (and not have it on all time) you're likely greeted with a bunch of programs that want to update, including windows, and configuring games becomes a much bigger chunk out of your limited play time.

Most of my PC gaming is on laptop now, which is always on and up to date. (Well until windows update broke, I haven't found a solution yet to fix it, always stuck on preparing to update) It's a bit limited with a Geforce GT 740M but runs most games well enough. It's far from ideal, a laptop is even more akward to stick next to the tv. It's good enough not to miss the PC exclusives that interest me. Meanwhile multiplats are fine on consoles, zero effort, zero association with work, turn on and play.
Btw PC is needed less and less for exclusive. The Point & click genre is getting better on consoles. I just bought the book of unwritten tales 2 for ps4, physical copy only 19.19 (38.69 on Steam), install time less than 5 seconds before being able to play. Not even a patch to download. I've had smooth PC experiences too, yet never that smooth. (I played the first one on PC with sound issues)

I can honestly say that ive never really run into any big problems with pc gaming. Am i denying that some people do end up having a bad experiance with PC gaming?, no im not. The same way i wouldnt deny that the is people who has had problems with consoles. I mean if everyone was to say "Im never buying another console again" after the PS2 days with the bad dvd drives and hardware failing and then with the 360 days with the whole RROD thing, we would all think consoles are just made to break and not last and never waste or money on one. Pretty much any system can give anyone problems at some point..



zero129 said:

Google The Witcher 3 Ps4 perfomance issues that took a number of patchs to fix. also well your add it google Assassins Creed Unity PS4 issues..

The Witcher 3 ran smooter on PC then it did on PS4.

Its also lies what your saying about frequent upgrades as you really dont need to upgrade that often unless you want to run everything at max settings (Something console gamers cant do anyways), Like i said i still have an old PC that can run everything thats out today with some settings turned down.

And who says you have to use a desk? if your using your PC for gaming why not just plug it into your tv and set steam big picture mode to boot at start up then its pretty much the same as a console once you plug a joypad in. If this is an issue why not get a steam link for when your gaming on your tv?

You have no excuse for the FUD campaign your running against PC on this site other then whatever kind of fear you have of pc gamers..


I'm sure more PCs had performance issues than PS4s. Just maybe not your PC.



Lawlight said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Lawlight said:

Which of those is a lie?

Most of them. I've never had to fiddle with drivers/settings etc. Get the odd time where a game won't start until I've downloaded a driver update but that's not exactly hard. Besides, speaking of updates 99% of the time they are automatic anyways. Windows does most of them automatically, usually including driver updates. While Steam auto downloads any necessary game updates. PS3 only does that if you pay for PS+, while I'm not aware of either the PS4 or Xbox One being able to do that yet. So that 'frequent updates required' thing isn't really a thing. Updates are done much more in the background and you rarely notice them, same can't really be said for consoles. As for extra space... well you know a laptop could be used for PC gaming too right? Besides I expect the vast majority of people already have a computer + desk for other purposes anyways so it's not as if it's any more space than was being taken up by your old PC anyway.


1. Just a random example, Google The Witcher 3 PC issues drivers, you'll get plenty of hits.

2. I said frequent upgrades, not update. Updates are done in the background for the PS4 as well.

Gaming on a laptop is the most uncomfortable thing ever and you're still left with the final issue. So. I think all of them are true.

3. And gaming at a desk, cut out from your partner or family, who wants that? I know I did when I was a teenager.

1. Consoles have similar problems with games. Just look at the number of updates they need these days and some never get fixed (google Skyrim PS3)

2. Completely false considering a mid-high tier PC from March 2012 is still capable of playing equivalent games at higher settings and resolutions than PS4 (that's mine btw; Core i5 2500K, 8Gb RAM and an AMD HD7870).

3. It's 2015, not 2000. There are plenty of controllers, case designs and interfaces to make gaming on a couch and TV a viable option. Valve are introducing a bunch of PCs just for that.



Lawlight said:

zero129 said:

Google The Witcher 3 Ps4 perfomance issues that took a number of patchs to fix. also well your add it google Assassins Creed Unity PS4 issues..

The Witcher 3 ran smooter on PC then it did on PS4.

Its also lies what your saying about frequent upgrades as you really dont need to upgrade that often unless you want to run everything at max settings (Something console gamers cant do anyways), Like i said i still have an old PC that can run everything thats out today with some settings turned down.

And who says you have to use a desk? if your using your PC for gaming why not just plug it into your tv and set steam big picture mode to boot at start up then its pretty much the same as a console once you plug a joypad in. If this is an issue why not get a steam link for when your gaming on your tv?

You have no excuse for the FUD campaign your running against PC on this site other then whatever kind of fear you have of pc gamers..


I'm sure more PCs had performance issues than PS4s. Just maybe not your PC.

Yes cos my PC is some magic PC am i right? xD .

Also in reply to your post to Conina about The Witcher 3 issues.

A Driver issue is still pretty much a Software issue as once you update the driver the problem is fixed. How long did Sony fans have to wait for performance to become stable on the PS4? like it is on the PC from the start.. thats right it was with Patch 1.10 and when was that patch released? why only this month!!.

Also the PS4 issues where much more then "Just software Bugs" ..