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JRPGfan on 14 October 2015
Darwinianevolution said:
walsufnir said:
Ruler said:


So why cant i just put any 360 disc? why has the game to be redownloaded or it downloads some extra data? why isnt every xbox 360 game BCompatible? youre saying the nonsense here


The answer is in this thread.

Hint: Mass Effect is playable on Xbone as of right now. Do you really think that EA gave MS the whole toolset and the source code to make this possible? Really?

MS already said it is an emulator. The reason for it to be downloaded is that not a single game (this also applies to PS4) runs off disc. MS packages the whole game with updates into a binary which Xbone understands. It runs as an Xbone game on Xbone hardware. Again, there is no playing off discs at all this gen. Everything gets installed first.

If it's a fully functional emulator, that brings up a question: will Microsoft ever bring that emulator to Windows 10 and start selling 360 games through there?


Now that is a intresting question.

Would have to be towards the end of the life cycle so it doesnt eat away at any console sales, but yeah this could help software sales for the Xbox, if they allowed a emulator to be sold to people, so they could play xbox games on their PC.



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assclown on 14 October 2015

great news and since nintendo release project zero only digital in USA well i going to take the emulator to play it and keep my money until nintendo release a retail version



Goodnightmoon on 14 October 2015
assclown said:
great news and since nintendo release project zero only digital in USA well i going to take the emulator to play it and keep my money until nintendo release a retail version

Maybe in 6 years when it works like it should.



archer9234 on 14 October 2015
JRPGfan said:
the-pi-guy said:
Vodacixi said:
Pretty sure Nintendo will take down this sooner than later.

Like everyone else said emulators aren't illegal.  

In fact, Bleem! was even found to be allowed to legally sell their emulator for PS1 games.  So not only are emulators legally allowed, but they can even legally be sold.  Sony sued of course, but Bleem! won in court.  

What is usually illegal is the ROM or bios.   Legality depends on how those things are obtained.  For example, I can easily legally put my PS2 games into my PC and play them like that.  But if I wanted to download a game, that would be considered illegal.  Same for the bios of the PS2.  There's a way to get the bios directly from the PS2 legally, but downloading the bios is considered illegal.  

Emulator - Legal

Owned ROM - legal

Downloaded ROM - illegal

Alot of people consider downloading the ROM to be a grey zone, if they already own the game discs (for the console).

 

They could put abit of effect into ripping/backuping their own copy, but choose to go the hassle free route and just download it instead.

Same with bios...... alot of people own consoles, very few people put in the effort to get to know how to make a bios file of their own console (which should be legal?).

That area should always be legal. That is a semantics argument. You own the console/games. There is no reason downloading the iso or bios is bad then. Sue you under what? You were lazy to plug in a USB cable. You paid the $460 already.

It be like bitching about me using NO-CD cracks on my games. I bought said games. I just don't want to put the discs in drives. Nor want to rebuy them for a steam version. Or get rid of games for windows live crap. Same nonsense happens with companies bitching we rip our DVD's/BD's to our phones. You got my $160 for the HOUSE MD BD set. I'll do the digital copies myself. The way I want them done, thank you very much. Go bitch at the people who put them online. Not me.



Tachikoma on 14 October 2015
walsufnir said:
97alexk said:

emulators have always been for cheap people. pfft buy a real console.


Hmm? That's nonsense because they are way more than that (as of emulators since PSX).

Psst, don't tell him about the virtual console games on eshop being roms packaged with an emulator or he might lose it



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Tachikoma on 14 October 2015
Goodnightmoon said:
assclown said:
great news and since nintendo release project zero only digital in USA well i going to take the emulator to play it and keep my money until nintendo release a retail version

Maybe in 6 years when it works like it should.


Given that they've come this far on the first public release (playing retail games), I'd estimate that being a year away, tops.



Tachikoma on 14 October 2015
Ruler said:
walsufnir said:


I can't believe I have to read this nonsense. No, they are not modifying or reprogramming any 360 game. Of course it helps to know the system, yes.


So why cant i just put any 360 disc? why has the game to be redownloaded or it downloads some extra data? why isnt every xbox 360 game BCompatible? youre saying the nonsense here

For the same reason eshop VC games aren't 40kb.



Dr.Henry_Killinger on 14 October 2015
walsufnir said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

retooling is just recompiling, which is trivial with source, you just use an intel x86 compiler as opposed to a Power PC compiler, and iron out any bugs arising from incompatibility.


I don't need to you to tell me what Hnyad meant and how recompiling works - it is the wrong term and especially it is not what is happening.

Well you asked

 And recompilation is orders of magnitude more efficient than any other method of backwards compatibility, assuming certain criteria are met.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 14 October 2015
zero129 said:
Ruler said:

I dont like emulation, it runs poor and buggy. Ever since 32 bit consoles they wont run perfect no matter what, emulation is only good for 2D consoles and hardware. The only good 3D emulator i have ever seen is the emulkator from the PS3 for PS1 games. I only would trust an emulator made by Sony themselfs, they know the ins and outs of their consoles. 

Is everything with you only good when its made by Sony?.

Dolphin plays alot of Wii/GC games better then the Wii. PCSX2 plays alot of PS2 games better then a real PS2 the list goes on and on but clearly none of them emus matter cos Sony never made them and we all know "Only" "Sony" can make a good emu am i right??.

Errr....a lot is a strong word, emus just brute force it and some times their are fatal bugs, hence compatibility lists. An emulator made by the manufacturer has clear advantages. 



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Goodnightmoon on 14 October 2015
Tachikoma said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Maybe in 6 years when it works like it should.


Given that they've come this far on the first public release (playing retail games), I'd estimate that being a year away, tops.


Your estimation is pretty lame, all emulators starts very soon and they need years to become something decent, by now they have Nes Remix runing at 1fps without sound in a high end pc. Yeah, one year xD