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He broke the rules sure, but why does the rule break warrant firing? Surely a warning or unpaid suspension would suffice.



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PwerlvlAmy said:
honestly i feel the guy got what he deserved. it sucks sure, but again,he dug his own hole


I agree with this for sure

the reality is he spoke about a LOT of the inner runnings of Nintendo which seems unwise when they are such a private organization. he spoke about how they test some games, the pressure to get certain things done in time, the reaction of one of Nintendo highest executives when the work he and some others didn't really look right (in a somewhat negative light), and even sort of insulted some of the Nintendo fans who get annoyed that more games are not ported from Japan to the USA

I think the guy sounded relatively smart/polite but when you have an employer who forces you to sign a non disclosure pact regarding publicly sharing company information - you certainly shouldn't do it. it's not a joking matter

 

a lot of people are saying 'how did he get fired just for that!? it seems extreme" but you have to bear in mind that we know nothing about this employee, if he was good or poor. the odds are he already had some strikes against him to warrant this being the last straw

the fact that he would go onto a podcast and talk about Nintendo (something we never!! see Nintendo employees unofficially do) sort of sends some warning signals that maybe he didn't always play by the books



TheFallen said:
He broke the rules sure, but why does the rule break warrant firing? Surely a warning or unpaid suspension would suffice.


you have to understand- companies that have a non-disclosure agreement as part of their terms of employment are very serious about this sort of stuff. a lot of companies don't even have this sort of agreement because they aren't in the business of valuable information or secrets

but obviously a Nintendo has a lot of things that their employees could share and potentially hurt or tarnish their reputation (naturally you don't want spoilers about the internal process/development of games or just information about things to come in the future)

the reason a company with a non-disclosure agreement basically has to fire someone if they break it is because it sets an example. if they let this guy off then what happens the next time one of their employees goes off onto some podcast or interview in person and says something that tarnishes the companies reputation or shares information they don't want public? it sets the wrong status quo

again though, people are being naive in thinking this was the guys only strike. Nintendo is not going to come out and say 'so and so was late to work frequently, turned in work late, and was unorganized' but obviously something like that could have been the case. they clearly would have likely kept him if this was an isolated event, but even so it's sort of a serious matter when it's in the employee agreement

 

the reason I don't put this guy is because it's such an obvious thing not to do. you should have known about the rules and frankly anyone with half a brain recognizes that Nintendo is a pretty private company and that you don't generally see company members blah blah blah-ing to the public about them (no surprise since it's part of their contract not to)



Lawlight said:
Clyde32 said:


Have you ever worked for a company of this nature?


Have I ever worked for a bad company?

Stop hating something that you don´t even know.



Lawlight said:
Cobretti2 said:

Most companies will not fire you straight away if the breach isn't to damaging. They will give you the option to save face and walk away (i.e. so you remain employable) within the next couple weeks. If you ignore it then they wll fire you. I have seen many people at my previous companies just suddenly walk away because of such incidents. One guy didn't take the hint and was escorted out. 

 

No, most good companies would just warn you.


you have no idea if this guy had strikes/warning for other things already (odds are he did if he's dumb enough to breach policy by going on a podcast, something I've never ever seen a Nintendo employee unofficially do before)

also most companies with a non disclosure agreement WILL fire you if you break it by sharing private information publicly. for gods sake most corporations will fire someone if they have a picture of them in their work uniform online and an inappopriate caption or comment



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Nem said:

Can companies even make that kind of contract? Did he reveal any sort of secrets or something? Something is wrong if companies have the power to veto freedom of speech. Has got to be inconstituonal. 

Leaking company secrets is one thing, but simply talking in public is a right of every citizen.

There must be something i am not seeing here. I'm shocked at the number of people who think this is ok an Nintendo is in the right. They just can't be, unless he leaked something. If he did, do tell me what it was.


you're wrong, he could speak privately about Nintendo, surely, but to go on a public podcast and announce private things about his company was not okay considering Nintendo deliberately has expressed they don't want that

some of the stuff he mentioned was kind of inappropriate in my opinion, he went on about the process of some of his job and testing some games at one point. he also made some comments that made Sakurai not look particularly good, something about how Sakurai got quite frustrated that he and some others did not get very good test footage of some Smash Bros. or something or other, and bear in mind Sakurai is a huge executive there

and then to comment about the localization of Nintendo's Japanese games and to essentially mock the fans who constantly are asked for things to be translated and brought to America- it was inappropriate, it wasn't his place

I think the guy was polite for the most part but it's just common sense, you don't share private company information about the runnings of how things are done or decisions if the company specifically has a non-disclosure agreement

and bear in mind guys- any company with this sort of agreement goes through this in orientation, there is no thin line about this sort of thing. most companies these days if you simply wear a work t-shirt to certain events or have a picture of yourself in a work shirt online next to an inappropriate may fire you

nothing new



ihatefatkatz said:
Having listened to the podcast, Nintendo was justified in their actions.

The dude divulged way too much information about past projects, current projects and internal operations, not to mention the unprofessional manner that he spoke in.

Once they talked about Smash and Sakurai, you know he fucked up big time. With that said, it's rather unfortunate that he lost his dream job


I listened to the Podcast (you can find it online if you guys search) and as soon as he started to talk about Sakurai I said 'ohhhhh' because it became very obvious why he was fired. you don't talk about one of the highest executives publicy in a somewhat negative or iffy light like that and have no consequences. he essentially was saying positive things about him but also mentioned how Sakurai gets frustrated and wants things perfect, and those sort of comments along with the localization comments directed towards the fans were just too much to divulge 

   lots of little things about how they get their work done and time constraints and things too. just stuff a company might not want someone blah-blah-blah-ing about because you never know how the public will perceive things



Lawlight said:
Cobretti2 said:

Most companies will not fire you straight away if the breach isn't to damaging. They will give you the option to save face and walk away (i.e. so you remain employable) within the next couple weeks. If you ignore it then they wll fire you. I have seen many people at my previous companies just suddenly walk away because of such incidents. One guy didn't take the hint and was escorted out. 

 

No, most good companies would just warn you.


The warning comes at the time of hire. You told what will result in your immediate termination.



The problem is not that Nintendo were in their right to fire the guy. They most probably were in their right to fire the guy as told by their internal NDAs.

The problem is that it shows how retarded and outdated Nintendo laws / policies are with their employees (and gamers with no unified account etc.)

In the era of social medias you've got to accept some leniency and flexibility or else those negative posts / articles will continue to appear as they do regularly.



Anyone who is hating on Nintendo or coming to the aid of this guy is just ignorant and obviously has some warped emotional prejudice against Nintendo, ANY MAJOR CORPORATION DOES THIS.I live in New Zealand and work in the corporate world and even I have seen these non-disclosure clauses on every damn employment contract i have signed, its an absolute No No.. The guy is dumb, yea i feel sorry for him but thats the way it goes. Put yourself in the corporations position or managements position. I would have fired him to if I was in there shoes.