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Snoopy said:
I think square enix broke the NDA. If thats the case, they're going to meet Microsoft's lawyers.


If they do that, it will be public and nobody will want to deal with Microsoft.

They are better off letting it go.



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I have a different theory to breaking NDA. I'm thinking they wanted to start promoting Xbox windows 10 cross play, and sat down with CD. Then realized everybody and his dog would think PC version early 2016? - PS4 early 2016. We cannot let that mindset settle in, lets just announce the PS4 version as a gesture of goodwill, then give a big up yours it is later than you hoped. That is all I can think of, for them announcing it before January 2016. I have given up trying to second guess this soap opera, I hate this whole dividing up of gaming by all sides, but I am sadly in the minority it seems.



Everyone is saying this is a lose for PlayStation but is it? What if instead of releasing the game full price with add ons what if PlayStation pays to make it a free ps plus title like Metal Gear Solid? And keep the add ons at full price so the still make a bit of revenue it will give PS players an incintitive to play



I really just see it how Capcom did with Resident Evil 4. A bit before the GC version came out. PS2 version was announced.



Protendo said:
Snoopy said:
I think square enix broke the NDA. If thats the case, they're going to meet Microsoft's lawyers.


If they do that, it will be public and nobody will want to deal with Microsoft.

They are better off letting it go.


Yeah, they have no real choices, Square Enix became too big on this generation, they have too much leverage ( KH3, FF XV, a possible FF VII R microsoft is hoping for i guess and many important western games like Deus Ex )



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

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Microsoft is publishing the game which spells a $39.99 edition of Tomb Raider for PS4 and a $30 edition for PC. Square is really going to have to make it up to the pissed off Sony and PC fans they sold out to make this deal.



fireburn95 said:
This was always gonna be a timed exclusive, but as soon as the backlash was bigger than square expected, they probably re-did the deal with microsoft whereby they still get exclusivity but they should be able to announce the game for other platforms.

Personally the only company this will affect if it turns out to be a bad deal is Crystal. Square don't need tomb raider to be successful, they're doing quite well, microsoft has many other exclusives and sony have plenty of games to keep them company up until the next holidays.


They always knew it was going to be timed exclusive. Mirosoft intentionally lied, not knowing the backash would come. Peope dont like heaing about stuff like random exclusivity of franchises that it took five consles just to profit off of. Luckily for all of us care about fairness as well as owning an Xbox, Spencer decided to be more transparent with fans and things have really picked up since then.



Aerys said:
Protendo said:


If they do that, it will be public and nobody will want to deal with Microsoft.

They are better off letting it go.


Yeah, they have no real choices, Square Enix became too big on this generation, they have too much leverage ( KH3, FF XV, a possible FF VII R microsoft is hoping for i guess and many important western games like Deus Ex )


Nope, there is way too many xbox ones for Square Enix to ignore. Even if FF15 sales 1/10th of the ps4 version, its still a lot of money especially consdiering how it isn't hard to port games from ps4 to xbox one and pc because same architectures and engines being able to handle all versions of the game.



Snoopy said:
Aerys said:


Yeah, they have no real choices, Square Enix became too big on this generation, they have too much leverage ( KH3, FF XV, a possible FF VII R microsoft is hoping for i guess and many important western games like Deus Ex )


Nope, there is way too many xbox ones for Square Enix to ignore. Even if FF15 sales 1/10th of the ps4 version, its still a lot of money especially consdiering how it isn't hard to port games from ps4 to xbox one and pc because same architectures and engines being able to handle all versions of the game.


Not at all, this isnt how it works , even if the architectures are the same, the hardwares are noy, it still takes a lot of money to develop each version on each hardware ( we already Know they struggle with thé x1 version to even reach 900p btw, its the kind of things that became important so more time for this version so more money ) + there is the big cost of publishing the game, thé benefit of a version selling barely 500k isnt enough for a game of this scale.

 

Square enix can ignore Xbox now they Know thé sales and Sony domination, for thé same reason Dragon Quest XI wont be on X1 ( you can mark my words on this), so microsoft has no interest in lawsuit with them, that would cost more money to square enix than what they can earn with X1 version of their games



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Snoopy said:
Aerys said:


Yeah, they have no real choices, Square Enix became too big on this generation, they have too much leverage ( KH3, FF XV, a possible FF VII R microsoft is hoping for i guess and many important western games like Deus Ex )


Nope, there is way too many xbox ones for Square Enix to ignore. Even if FF15 sales 1/10th of the ps4 version, its still a lot of money especially consdiering how it isn't hard to port games from ps4 to xbox one and pc because same architectures and engines being able to handle all versions of the game.


You have to factor developer cost, Microsoft lisencing costs, costs to make boxes. More than likely those people will some of them will buy this PS4 won. It might not even be woth the opportunity costs (manpower/developer time) they could be using elsewhere. Microsoft isn't even bothering with JRPGS... It's a shame because we could have another Blue Dragon.