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I think Nintendo will move on to being a broader family entertainment company in the next few years with things like movies.

Having a contained ecosystem of their own hardware will let them leverage and control their IP brands and launch new IP like Splatoon, something that probably would've gotten lost as a third party game. There are benefits to having your own hardware.



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NintendoPie said:
GTstation said:

A fluke thats what you are putting Ninendos future on, not happening now or ever agian.  No nintendo hardware will ever pull such numbers to make 30m even wishfully possible.  They need to go multi to survive in the future.  Or have Disney buy them.

Your stance is ludicrous. The Wii is certainly not a fluke. The fact that you say that leads me to believe you haven't a clue what fluke actually means.

And what Soundwave said is true. Profitability is key for Nintendo and they can easily profit on their own consoles. They've always done so, except for this generation. Also, to your comment about 10 million sales, Nintendo's games often climb to those limits, especially on handhelds.

Look at what the two console before and after wii did, everything points to a fluke.  Or is fad better ? 

Yes profitability.  Thats harder to do when hardware costs are high due to low sales.  Take away hardware and funnel all that $ into their greatest strength.  Game development, the choices they will make in the future are plain to see.  

Simple really.  Their strength is software weakness is hardware.  Take their strength and release it on a massive user base that NO nintendo hardware will ever even come close to.  Simpel logic is ludicrous lol.



GTstation said:
Soundwave said:


They just need to make a profit. Selling 30 million copies of Mario Kart is nice, but it's not a requirement to do business. 


Not yet but given how gave development costs are going, who knows we may see a time of sale 10m or go bust times.

It be easy making a profit if they were selling on the combined yser bases of PS PC Xbox, thats what.. 200m or a billion potential custumers? 


Well considering how conservative Nintendo is when it comes to game development costs, that might take quite a bit longer for them to reach that point. 



More Amiibo stock, including a new Legend of Zelda Amiibo line to coincide with Zelda U.

Their mobile games should do extraordinarily well. 100 million + downloads for each title should be easily be in reach.

Demand for WiiU software seems really, really strong considering the size of the userbase. It could be even better if they reissue some titles that are hard to find at retail like Pikmin 3 or Lego City Undercover.

From a business perspective, they're capitalizing on DLC really well too.



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016

Clyde32 said:
GTstation said:


Not yet but given how gave development costs are going, who knows we may see a time of sale 10m or go bust times.

It be easy making a profit if they were selling on the combined yser bases of PS PC Xbox, thats what.. 200m or a billion potential custumers? 


Well considering how conservative Nintendo is when it comes to game development costs, that might take quite a bit longer for them to reach that point. 


Werent the wiiu droughts due to all the games being delayed due to them underestimating hd gaming costs and dev times.  They already are facing the same issues the rest of the industry is.



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fatslob-:O said:
I don't think pushing mobile will reap "Nintendo-like" profits since that sector is known for being low margin ...

It's either release a new platform or go bust ...

Low profit margins are fine when you have an audience of 100s of millions of people. Nintendo's brand will gaurntee them abosutely huge download figures without wasting much on marketing, I think it'll just come down to how aggressive they monetise their apps.



Mobile will be a big earner.

Low cost, big returns for Nintendo. Amiibo, Introduction ofQOL. It actually might make sense 2016 being a year of huge profits indicates NX won't be released. Hardware launches are always costly and it might make sense for Nintendo to have a year of focusing on mobile, QOL and exploiting amiibo with the introduction of cheaper, more readily available cards.



GTstation said:
Clyde32 said:


Well considering how conservative Nintendo is when it comes to game development costs, that might take quite a bit longer for them to reach that point. 


Werent the wiiu droughts due to all the games being delayed due to them underestimating hd gaming costs and dev times.  They already are facing the same issues the rest of the industry is.

 

HD games costing more has nothing to do with how conservative Nintendo is. Sure it's going to cost more, but it's not going to cost as much as it would if they weren't conservative.



re release a bunch of amiibo.....



 

teigaga said:
Mobile will be a big earner.

Low cost, big returns for Nintendo. Amiibo, Introduction ofQOL. It actually might make sense 2016 being a year of huge profits indicates NX won't be released. Hardware launches are always costly and it might make sense for Nintendo to have a year of focusing on mobile, QOL and exploiting amiibo with the introduction of cheaper, more readily available cards.


I'm really starting to think QOL is stuck in development limbo. It was supposed to be unveiled a while ago and we've still seen basically nothing. Not sure what Nintendo really wants to do there, it seems more like they came to the idea of making "quality of life" as a product category first without having really a specific product in mind.  

Mobile can be a money-maker, but it's also a market where maybe 1/1000 apps really make any money. Counting on that to be a gaurunteed windfall overnight might be foolish. Not that I don't think they can make money there, sure they can, but it doesn't mean huge profits overnight either. They might need a year or two to figure out what works and what doesn't as mobile is uncharted territory for them. 

3DS is their main profit driver but it needs to be replaced soon. That has to be the no.1 priority if you're Nintendo, and IMO NX is the 3DS replacement, first and foremost.