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Yulegoat said: HD-DVD seems to have better picture quality on all of the first three released Warner Movies as it is using VC1 encoding system instead of mpeg2 like blu-ray: http://www.highdefdigest.com/feature_blurayvshddvd_firstcomparison.html I've also read that HD-DVD has new exclusive studios: New Line, Weinstein and Studio Canal and Buena Vista/Walt Disney has given up on it's exclusiveness for blu-ray: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6463_7-6462511-2.html http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/ Please correct me if you have more up-to-date information.
That's oooooold news,right know bluray is using vc1 encoding system and the quality is great and bluray has a much bigger support than hddvd.Your links are dated 2005:That's ancient time.We are in 2007.Read this to see how well the bluray is doing right know in 2007: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=779657 this site use to be pro hddvd

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Yes, one of the comparison charts was from 2005, but the VC-1/mpeg2 information was from 2006. If the PS3 enables VC-1 encoding, then how come Sony didn't use it right from the start? Could someone give a link of a new comparison between blu-ray and HD-DVD (both VC-1), since I can't find one? Anyways, here's the latest graph of blu-ray (blue) vs. HD-DVD (black) 30 day top-10 salesrank: http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd/graphs/salesrank-1-1-recent30.jpg As for the 360, I think MS should've included HD-DVD drive in the Xbox 360 to begin with. The extra tower isn't just a good solution, although it's 100,000 units sales have been clamed to be a success. The Wii, well it doesn't even handle DVD movies. A lot of people already have a DVD-player, but 2 in 1 is always more convenient solution than extra machines all over the living room. Back to DVD porn: it's funny to see you're ignoring(?) a $3 billion business, even if it is declining. I think size is starting to play a major role with next gen, because those who want superb quality are going to have some issues with loading time if they decide to have HD-porn from the net rather than on a disk.

Blu-Ray is going to be using AVCs from now forward on most of the newer movies coming out. I tihnk the majority are going to be in MPEG4, VC-1 is great for compression that's why HD-DVD uses it, but when you use 50GB discs standard you don't need to compress as much so MPEG4 will likely be just as good quality if not better. The Majority of Porn sales are over the net. Think about it, I can get a subcription to a family of website, like 10-20 of the same brand for 20 bucks a month. I wil have access to all their movies, archives, and new movies. What can I get movie wise for 20 bucks? 1 DVD in 480p, which I could burn myself from my computer when I download the movies from the net. Who would ever buy a movie on DVD? It's been a continuing downtrend since VHS. When VHS was introduced the net wasn't around, and individual porn movies could sell in the millions of copies. Now for individual movies that is no longer the case. HD-DVDs and Blu-rays will sell even less. Would you really pay 50bucks for those? Yeah right when you can get it basically free on the net.

Yulegoat said: Yes, one of the comparison charts was from 2005, but the VC-1/mpeg2 information was from 2006. If the PS3 enables VC-1 encoding, then how come Sony didn't use it right from the start? Could someone give a link of a new comparison between blu-ray and HD-DVD (both VC-1), since I can't find one? Anyways, here's the latest graph of blu-ray (blue) vs. HD-DVD (black) 30 day top-10 salesrank: http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd/graphs/salesrank-1-1-recent30.jpg .
You used this site as a reference before so I am surprised you didn't see reviews like http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/lastsamurai.html You do not really understand encoding. The PS3 didn't have to enable anything it could always play VC-1 it was all up to the distribution companies to decide which format to encode with. And make no mistake VC-1 is good but not better. With enough space and bandwith Mpeg-2 gets a lot of rave reviews. Like here http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/enemyofthestate.html So after the blu ray camp fixed thier issues with the 50 gig discs now the support is rolling out. Compare the titles and compare the exclusives. http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/releasedates.html http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/releasedates.html you would have to admit that "one" of those formats is in for a rough year in 2007. I really believe with titles like crank and casino royale coming out blu ray might gain an edge.

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staticneuron said:You do not really understand encoding. The PS3 didn't have to enable anything it could always play VC-1 it was all up to the distribution companies to decide which format to encode with.
I was replying to xtx, who said "that's oooooold news,right know bluray is using vc1 encoding system and the quality is great". I was only interested on whether there was any sensible reason for Warner using such choices that made the first blu-ray releases picture quality a lot inferior compared to HD-DVDs? Can you answer that? Peter Bracke at high-def digest said he had lukewarm reaction also to the picture quality of the first Sony Pictures movies he reviewed, which were XXX and 50 first dates. Thanks for the link to the review. I just tried to google for "blu-ray vc-1" etc. because I wasn't interested in going through all the reviews on high-def digest to find what I was looking for since i had no idea as to how popular the vc-1 would be.

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At least one porn studio said they supported Blu-Ray in 2006, and I don't know if they still support it. Sony said they will allow porn, then they said they wouldn't, and then they said they would allow it. Sony has become really confusing in the past couple years...

Yulegoat said: I was only interested on whether there was any sensible reason for Warner using such choices that made the first blu-ray releases picture quality a lot inferior compared to HD-DVDs? Can you answer that? Peter Bracke at high-def digest said he had lukewarm reaction also to the picture quality of the first Sony Pictures movies he reviewed, which were XXX and 50 first dates.
To tell you the truth I can only guess. I can only imagine it had to do with bitrate. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=760714

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AmishGramish said: Sony said they will allow porn, then they said they wouldn't, and then they said they would allow it.
Sony is in charge of the licensing so they will allow Porn on Blu Ray but they have said no to porn being pressed in the Blu-ray manufacturing facilities that Sony owns.

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