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Skullwaker said:
JRPGfan said:
No it couldnt.... its not a time thing... its a failed concept thing.

It cost more than 80$ in components, when the Wii U launched.

It was to expensive then.... a earlier launch would have made it probably even more expensive/weaker or weird in design.

 

I dont think its a time thing.... even if a next gen "gamepad" ends up cheaper now, it still wouldnt work.

Nintendo should have stayed with the Nunchucks that worked for the Wii and where wildly popular.

Or made a standart controller like everyone else.... being differnt just for the sake of being differnt... is a bad idea.

It is a time thing. On top of a million other things.

And both Wiimote/Nunchuck and the traditional Pro Controller work with the Wii U.


but your forced to buy the wii u with the expensive gamepad, most consumers dont want.



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Yeah..... i get where he is coming from. But for me, it was the gamepad itself which sold the Wii U for me. I think they should get away from that "Wii" brand, and try something completely new, and try to target a wide audience - like they can keep their mario/party/"Children" type games, but still having that 3rd party support ( where the hardcore audience can go to )



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LurkerJ said:
Will NX be "a little bit" expensive? Maybe it's time to do something new by doing something traditional...

This is what worries me a little bit.

"So what I think is unique about Nintendo is we’re constantly trying to do unique and different things. Sometimes they work, and sometimes they’re not as big of a hit as we would like to hope. After Wii U, we’re hoping that next time it will be a very big hit."

So they are trying "something new" again? Oh my.. just do what Sony do: nothing. PS4 is "just" a stronger PS1 and that's OK because that's what gamers want.



JRPGfan said:
but your forced to buy the wii u with the expensive gamepad, most consumers dont want.

Yeah, and that's one of the million issues with the console.

But even the option to use those controllers didn't save the Wii U, because of the other issues.



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haqqaton said:
LurkerJ said:
Will NX be "a little bit" expensive? Maybe it's time to do something new by doing something traditional...

This is what worries me a little bit.

"So what I think is unique about Nintendo is we’re constantly trying to do unique and different things. Sometimes they work, and sometimes they’re not as big of a hit as we would like to hope. After Wii U, we’re hoping that next time it will be a very big hit."

So they are trying "something new" again? Oh my.. just do what Sony do: nothing. PS4 is "just" a stronger PS1 and that's OK because that's what gamers want.

Doing the same stuff that Sony does won't put them back on top. Just because you imitate someone doesn't mean you will get the same results as them.

"Something new" is good and I hope they embrace it.



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Anfebious said:
haqqaton said:
LurkerJ said:
Will NX be "a little bit" expensive? Maybe it's time to do something new by doing something traditional...

This is what worries me a little bit.

"So what I think is unique about Nintendo is we’re constantly trying to do unique and different things. Sometimes they work, and sometimes they’re not as big of a hit as we would like to hope. After Wii U, we’re hoping that next time it will be a very big hit."

So they are trying "something new" again? Oh my.. just do what Sony do: nothing. PS4 is "just" a stronger PS1 and that's OK because that's what gamers want.

Doing the same stuff that Sony does won't put them back on top. Just because you imitate someone doesn't mean you will get the same results as them.

"Something new" is good and I hope they embrace it.


Only if what you have is bad.

Once you find something good, that works and consumers want... you stick to it, improve on it, and make it become associated with you.

 

Nintendo found the "good" with their wii nunchucks... wii sold like hotcakes.

Instead of makeing a new and better wii (wii 2), they just changed everything for no reason.



JRPGfan said:
Anfebious said:
haqqaton said:
LurkerJ said:
Will NX be "a little bit" expensive? Maybe it's time to do something new by doing something traditional...

This is what worries me a little bit.

"So what I think is unique about Nintendo is we’re constantly trying to do unique and different things. Sometimes they work, and sometimes they’re not as big of a hit as we would like to hope. After Wii U, we’re hoping that next time it will be a very big hit."

So they are trying "something new" again? Oh my.. just do what Sony do: nothing. PS4 is "just" a stronger PS1 and that's OK because that's what gamers want.

Doing the same stuff that Sony does won't put them back on top. Just because you imitate someone doesn't mean you will get the same results as them.

"Something new" is good and I hope they embrace it.


Only if what you have is bad.

Once you find something good, that works and consumers want... you stick to it, improve on it, and make it become associated with you.

 

Nintendo found the "good" with their wii nunchucks... wii sold like hotcakes.

Instead of makeing a new and better wii (wii 2), they just changed everything for no reason.

I will never understand why nintendo decided to kill the wiimotes it still baffles me today. They had something succesful that people liked and they threw it under the bus.



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Anfebious said:
haqqaton said:
LurkerJ said:
Will NX be "a little bit" expensive? Maybe it's time to do something new by doing something traditional...

This is what worries me a little bit.

"So what I think is unique about Nintendo is we’re constantly trying to do unique and different things. Sometimes they work, and sometimes they’re not as big of a hit as we would like to hope. After Wii U, we’re hoping that next time it will be a very big hit."

So they are trying "something new" again? Oh my.. just do what Sony do: nothing. PS4 is "just" a stronger PS1 and that's OK because that's what gamers want.

Doing the same stuff that Sony does won't put them back on top. Just because you imitate someone doesn't mean you will get the same results as them.

"Something new" is good and I hope they embrace it.

By traditional, I actually meant something along the lines of the original Wii. Motion controls was their space and they can return to it again, succeed where others failed with a reasonably priced console.

Glad to see some of you understood what I exactly meant with my initial post.

OT:

The problem Miyamoto is talking about, which is definitely not the Wii U biggest issue but w/e, is gonna hit their QoL sleeping sensors by the time they release them to the market. Smartphones can do just that and do it better with a simple .99 dollar App, not a dedicated hardware.

I wonder if those sensors are still in the pipeline because we haven't heard much about them so far.