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For me personally, and several people I've talked to, playing the Destiny 2 beta has left the impression of "meh....more Destiny." It's the same feeling I had when I returned to Destiny a few months back, buying the collection, after having dropped the game about a month or so into the vanilla version. The gameplay is very fun for the most part, but Bungie still to this day hasn't figured out how to properly keep people engaged by providing enough variety in activities, loot, and mechanic design when it comes to things like strikes and bosses. They are playing it as safe as they could possibly play it, and really....it comes across as very low effort.

Graphics:
Even moving from a cross-gen title to one dedicated only to current gen, there's remarkably little improvement here. It's a bit sharper, but that's it. Art style is still great, but they could have definitely made a jump here, and they didn't.

Sound:
Great. Probably the only part of Destiny that has been faultless since day 1 of the first game, and it remains so

PvE:
Hard to say too much. The story mission is solid, but frankly, it's hard for me to give them too much credit for just promising a worthwhile campaign this time around, when it should have always been a given in the first place. Destiny 1 wetting the bed in this regard doesn't give Destiny 2 bonus points. The Strike is typical Destiny. Drawn out artificially, and an uninteresting sponge boss at the end. It also all feels a bit too slow atm, because the trademark class abilities feel a bit underpowered, and take too long to recharge. Needs some tweaking. More importantly too, the "new" classes are mostly uninspired rehashes of the old classes, and as a result, they don't really wow you like they should. And god help them if they've removed the third subclasses from the game.

PvP:
Much improved in my mind. Not the utterly chaotic clusterfuck that was Destiny 1. Actually worth taking somewhat seriously now. Still, Bungie's decision to balance the game mostly around PvP, when PvE is the game's main draw is a particularly odd choice in my mind. You can't force a game into the pro circuits, and it feels like that's what they're trying to do here.

Final Impression:
If you love Destiny, you'll probably love Destiny 2. If you're like me, and remember that Bungie is capable of over-delivering, and innovating.....if you looked at Destiny 1, really enjoyed the core gameplay, but felt underwhelmed by the execution at pretty much every turn (that wasn't a raid).....I really doubt Destiny 2 will change your mind. That said, it's impossible to judge the game on this beta, because it tells me nothing about the amount, and variety of the game's final content. Those are the things that will determine the success of this game.

6/10



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Also, it's important to note how little insight this beta gives you compared to the Destiny 1 beta. That in and of itself isn't necessarily a bad thing, but the key question is.....have they given us less here because they wanna play their cards close to the chest, and have lots of awesome surprises in store, or is it because they know Destiny 2 doesn't have a whole lot more to offer than the first game, and they're not too keen of making that more obvious by once again giving you like 20% of the full game in the beta?



Destiny beta
Mission: Very interesting and the cliffhanger at the end has me hyped for the full game.
Peeve: The strike played great and I did like how they added more platforming and the part where you had to dodge the big spinning thing. Also for the boss i liked how the levels were changing.
PVP: Its improved a lot and i thing Bungie did a great job at balancing the game this time
9/10



shikamaru317 said:

Angelus said:

Stuff and things 

Bolded the things I agree with you on. Can't really comment too much on your Destiny 1 comparisons since I only played the beta for Destiny 1. The main points where we disagree is that you weren't as impressed by the campaign as me, and you were more impressed by the multiplayer than me. 

Don't get me wrong, based on that one mission, I think it's a solid start for the campaign. I like the overall tone, and they did well to give you a properly defined antagonist right off the bat. I'm not a huge fan of him deus ex machinaing the shit out of us, cus that sort of shit is cheap, but oh well. Also not big on the fact that they at some point decided that your guardians will not speak at all anymore. Even though they only had a few lines in the first game, it still went a long way in my mind of making you an actual person in this world, and given that Destiny 1 wasn't exactly well written by any stretch, there was a lot of room for improvement there. Again, you don't have to have them say much....a little can go a long way. I don't like these speechless drones. It makes me feel like your ghost (aka Nolan North impersonating 343 guilty spark) is the main character, and you're just his versatile pocket knife. 

That said, if the first mission is indicative of the story as a whole, I do believe it will be quite good. It's just hard for me to give Bungie very much praise for this, because we know for a fact that they already had exactly that ready to go for the first game, and basically threw it, and Jospeph Staten, out the window for shits and giggles....instead replacing what they had with little more than a bunch of lore cards on their website. It's not like they made some bold, crazy choices for the writting in the first game, and it misfired, and this is them redeeming themselves. No. This is them setting the bar at pretty much nil the first go around, and now going back and delivering exactly the type of fun, somewhat campy story they know works well in a shooter, because everbody rightfully told you to get your shit together, and you didn't have a choice.

So I'm glad it's there. I'm glad it gets off to a pretty good start. Am I blow blown away by Bungie showing me they can do something for one mission, I've seen them do as good or better throughout a whole game many times before? No.



Finally time to retire Forza Horizon 3.

Loved both expansions and the base game itself. Improves upon FH 2 in location IMO. Has to be my favorite racer I've played. Put over 225 hours into it, did all exhibitions and champtionships for the main game, Blizzard mountain and Hot Wheels. 1500 GS as well! Cant wait for FH 4. Hope it's set in Japan.



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Could you please explain why Japan is tge perfect setting? I find US, Europe, Australia and mayve even Africa to be better settings than Japan? Is it because it's "Japan", because that is what I feel. Why not China and South Korea?



I LOVE GIGGS said:
Could you please explain why Japan is tge perfect setting? I find US, Europe, Australia and mayve even Africa to be better settings than Japan? Is it because it's "Japan", because that is what I feel. Why not China and South Korea?

It's not quite the perfect setting, but it is a good one. The Forza community has a lot of Japan fans, and Tokyo is a big racing city. The surrounding farmlands, along with some twisty mountain roads that are tailor made for drifting would definitely make a lot of people very happy. I'd definitely enjoy it.

That said, FH3 introduced so much variety in their environments on the map...everything from beaches, to jungles, to deserts, to cities, to open fields, and rolling hills....I imagine they'd ideally like to keep as much variety as possible, and Japan might feel like a bit of a step back in that regard. But hey, every local ain't as crazy as Australia lol. It would be cool I think to see them do multiple locations in a single game at some point. Since they always put an airport in their games anyway, you could just drive over to it whenever you wanna travel between play spaces.

Other places I'd like to see Horizon go are Rio, the black forest here in Germany, Dubai, and New Zealand.

 



Angelus said:
I LOVE GIGGS said:
Could you please explain why Japan is tge perfect setting? I find US, Europe, Australia and mayve even Africa to be better settings than Japan? Is it because it's "Japan", because that is what I feel. Why not China and South Korea?

It's not quite the perfect setting, but it is a good one. The Forza community has a lot of Japan fans, and Tokyo is a big racing city. The surrounding farmlands, along with some twisty mountain roads that are tailor made for drifting would definitely make a lot of people very happy. I'd definitely enjoy it.

That said, FH3 introduced so much variety in their environments on the map...everything from beaches, to jungles, to deserts, to cities, to open fields, and rolling hills....I imagine they'd ideally like to keep as much variety as possible, and Japan might feel like a bit of a step back in that regard. But hey, every local ain't as crazy as Australia lol. It would be cool I think to see them do multiple locations in a single game at some point. Since they always put an airport in their games anyway, you could just drive over to it whenever you wanna travel between play spaces.

Other places I'd like to see Horizon go are Rio, the black forest here in Germany, Dubai, and New Zealand.

 

For the first part of your reply, gamers always overrate anything attached to Japan. Them asking for Japan to be the next location for Horizon or any game is not any indication for me. They've been asking for Japan since the first game and they will keep asking for it even if there are much better options.

 

I agree 100% with the second part. That is why I don't think Japan is the perfect location for this game or even close to it. I'd prefer to play on different parts of US or Europe, South Africa, or Brazil like you mentioned. 



New Crackdown 3 trailer
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YVXujveS1WE



jason1637 said:
New Crackdown 3 trailer
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YVXujveS1WE

0:14 - What you wish games would look like

0:15 - What the best games atm look like

0:16 - What Crackdown looks like?

 

Seriously wtf is this downgrade trailer? xD