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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - MEGATON?! Just How Big of a Deal is Ryu (Street Fighter) in SSB4? Thoughts on His Inclusion (if True)?

KingdomHeartsFan said:
Skullwaker said:

I don't think Nintendo would make a Snake mistake again. If Ryu is in SSB4, they would want something in return.

Why should Nintendo get anything in return?  Its not like putting Ryu in SSB is gonna help sell copies of SFV which is exclusive to another platform.


I think hels talking more Nintendo x Capcom, not SFV :p



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I don't care if this doesn't mean Nintendo vs. Capcom.

Ryu is just as iconic as Mega Man though, and Street Fighter has an association with at least the Super Nintendo, so it's not too crazy. It definitely makes more sense than any of the other 3rd party characters that get asked for like Snake or Bayonetta.



Skullwaker said:

I don't think Nintendo would make a Snake mistake again. If Ryu is in SSB4, they would want something in return.


Yeah, like all the new Mega Man games that have appeared on the Wii U and 3DS since he joined Smash.



I would say a massive deal to nintendo fans, not a blip on the radar for anyone else.



spemanig said:
Yeah, like all the new Mega Man games that have appeared on the Wii U and 3DS since he joined Smash.

The difference being that virtually every Mega Man game ever released has been on a Nintendo platform before. Capcom just doesn't support the series these days.

With Street Fighter, the games are still being made, but most don't come to Nintendo platforms.



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Skullwaker said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:
Using that logic why is Ness in the game?  Why is Game and Watch in the game?  Why is Duck Hunt in the game?  Since obviously were ignoring old games like SF2.

Ryu is as apart of Nintendo's history on the on the SNES as those charcters are on their respective consoles.

Those are first-party Nintendo characters. Ryu isn't.

As much as Ryu is a part of Nintendo's history, we can't ignore how things are now. 

First party characters that are a fraction as known as Ryu.  The way things are now is Capcom releases their games on the platforms that are the most lucrative for them.  I'm sure there's no bad blood there its just business.  Look at how Tekken did on the Wii U, which included extra stuff like costumes and items (not sure what else they put in) and it bombed hard, there should be no hard feelings toward Capcom for not wanting to put a SF on the Wii U.  

This is what this comes down to, Nintendo includes Ryu and makes money off of his DLC sales, Capcom literally gets almost nothing out of this deal so Nintendo has to pay them to include him.  If Ryu was actually in the released roster you could argue he gets exposure, but as DLC how many people are actually gonna play as him?  Probably well under 1m.



Skullwaker said:

On the flip side, why should Nintendo put a character from a franchise that doesn't support Nintendo into their game?

With companies, there has to be some give and take. I don't expect Nintendo to do this if they don't get anything in return, that's all.


Nintendo gets one of the most iconic video game characters of all time in their game, dude.

Let's not act like Nintendo is the only one doing favors with this. Ryu in Smash sells Smash copies, not just SF copies.



KingdomHeartsFan said:
Skullwaker said:

On the flip side, why should Nintendo put a character from a franchise that doesn't support Nintendo into their game?

With companies, there has to be some give and take. I don't expect Nintendo to do this if they don't get anything in return, that's all.

Because that character is huge, this is DLC.  The characters in DLC have to be enticing to encourage people to put down the extra cash.  No one is gonna drop extra cash for Daisy as a DLC character.  They get money in return from DLC sales.


You serious? Daisy would rack up a ton of money lol!



Maybe their doing deal for Monster Hunter 5 on a Nintendo platform.

Oh and someone from Tekken next please Nintendo.



KingdomHeartsFan said:
First party characters that are a fraction as known as Ryu.  The way things are now is Capcom releases their games on the platforms that are the most lucrative for them.  I'm sure there's no bad blood there its just business.  Look at how Tekken did on the Wii U, which included extra stuff like costumes and items (not sure what else they put in) and it bombed hard, there should be no hard feelings toward Capcom for not wanting to put a SF on the Wii U.  

This is what this comes down to, Nintendo includes Ryu and makes money off of his DLC sales, Capcom literally gets almost nothing out of this deal so Nintendo has to pay them to include him.  If Ryu was actually in the released roster you could argue he gets exposure, but as DLC how many people are actually gonna play as him?  Probably well under 1m.

They're still first party. They are Nintendo, and the game is about Nintendo. If Street Fighter isn't on Nintendo anymore,

Tekken isn't as big as Street Fighter anymore, and that launched fairly early in the Wii U's life cycle (I believe it was a launch title?).

I would argue much more than 1m people would play as Ryu. Currently 9m+ people own the game, and that's just after 6 months of sales. Looking at MK8 and SSBU as references, many people buy into the DLC given. He would get a ton of exposure.

I'm not even saying like a SFV port or anything big. Maybe a Nintendo x Capcom game, or a smaller-scale game. Literally anything. Something cost-effective that would get its money back fairly quickly. Shulk being in Smash has given a lot of attention to the Xenoblade series, and the same thing can happen with Street Fighter on Nintendo platforms.




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