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Lawlight on 27 February 2015
b00moscone said:
Lawlight said:

Just because the WiiU might have a higher attach rate than the Wii in the future, that does not mean that it will have a higher attach rate than the PS4 or that the number of games bought by WiiU owners will exceed the number of games bought by PS4 owners.


Its already evident that the attach rate is higher on the Wii U, like with Mario Kart 8 for example. But it is true that ps4 owners will buy more games for that systems than Wii U owners for that system, but we can only watch.

I am not sure what you mean by "like with Mario Kart 8".



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b00moscone on 27 February 2015
Lawlight said:
b00moscone said:


Its already evident that the attach rate is higher on the Wii U, like with Mario Kart 8 for example. But it is true that ps4 owners will buy more games for that systems than Wii U owners for that system, but we can only watch.

I am not sure what you mean by "like with Mario Kart 8".


The attach rate. I believe right now the attach rate for that game is almost 50% (According to VGchartz sales numbers)



 

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Lawlight on 27 February 2015
b00moscone said:
Lawlight said:

I am not sure what you mean by "like with Mario Kart 8".


The attach rate. I believe right now the attach rate for that game is almost 50% (According to VGchartz sales numbers)

You cannot use a game released earlier in the life of a console to compare than when that console hasn't finished selling yet.



b00moscone on 27 February 2015
Lawlight said:
b00moscone said:


The attach rate. I believe right now the attach rate for that game is almost 50% (According to VGchartz sales numbers)

You cannot use a game released earlier in the life of a console to compare than when that console hasn't finished selling yet.


Well, we are talking about current-gen consoles. There isn't really anything else i can use, but i do see what you mean. If MK8 sells only 5m, and the suspected amount of Wii U consoles being sold at the end of its lifetime is 20m, then the attach rate is half of what i said.



 

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Materia-Blade on 27 February 2015
outlawauron said:
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He was being sarcastic but 3ds will ever remain the 8th gen platform with most potential for DQ sales. Almost 20m japanese sales and counting. Plus, DQ 9 sold 4m+ on the ds, that's twice the wii u installed base and quadruple of ps4's. That means A DQ for 3ds has the installed base for the sales potential of a multiplat DQ between Wii U and ps4.

Fanbase is far more important than install base. If Dragon Quest Heroes, Final Fantasy XV, and Kingdom Hearts 3 all do well, Square has good reason to believe their JRPG fanbase has a PS4. That's just the Square titles as there's going to be other series that appear that grow that specific userbase.

I don't think using numbers now is a very fair comparison, because it's unlikely to have that great of an impact unless Nintendo/Sony are unable to convince Square that their respective platforms will suceed and continue to grow.

Square already has proof that their jrpg fanbase has a Wii U, given logic and DQ X sales. Let's be honest, square's fanbase is always on nintendo and sony platforms.



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Keybladewielder on 28 February 2015

The PS4 will win thanks to third party support and a longer life but it won't sell as much as the PS3



Guitarguy on 28 February 2015

PS4 has been doubling(sometimes tripling) Wii U sales in Japan for sometime now. PS4 will outsell it quite easily despite the Wii U being on the market a year earlier.



wangjingwanjia on 28 February 2015

Maybe I am too optimistic, but I am still hoping for a 8m sales for Wii U and 10m for PS4.

We should remember than in the last gen the total sales landed at ~25m (13m Wii, 10m PS3, 2m X360) in the end, and even though the market has shrunk I do believe that the PS4 could be able to match the PS3 at 8-10m, the Wii U will sell almost half of the Wii, perhaps 6-8m, but I hope more. And the X1, 0.5-1m at the very best I would think. And this would give us a total of 14.5-19m consoles.

Down 5-10m since last gen.

Something in me also says that the PS4 could even sell more than the PS3, but I am not willing to bet on it. The Japanese market will be really interesting to see how it ends up after this generation though.





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outlawauron on 28 February 2015
Materia-Blade said:
outlawauron said:

Fanbase is far more important than install base. If Dragon Quest Heroes, Final Fantasy XV, and Kingdom Hearts 3 all do well, Square has good reason to believe their JRPG fanbase has a PS4. That's just the Square titles as there's going to be other series that appear that grow that specific userbase.

I don't think using numbers now is a very fair comparison, because it's unlikely to have that great of an impact unless Nintendo/Sony are unable to convince Square that their respective platforms will suceed and continue to grow.

Square already has proof that their jrpg fanbase has a Wii U, given logic and DQ X sales. Let's be honest, square's fanbase is always on nintendo and sony platforms.

There has not been a traditional JRPG on Wii U. There is no reason to believe there's a JRPG fanbase on Wii U (we'll see how well Xenoblade does) and there's not much to support the other notion.



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daredevil.shark on 28 February 2015

FF XV, MGS V PP, persona 5, Yakuza Zero and lots of games will keep pushing PS4 sales in Japan.