Its completely mis-priced vs the competition at the moment. I think a $50 drop would help a lot, especially in Europe. They also need to beef up their retailer support operation. Microsoft is eating their lunch in that regard - incentives etc.

I think 20 million it's still crazy. Again, Mario Kart 8 and Smash arrived this year and the console is barely reaching the sales of 2013. Wii U is going to be alive for 4 more years, I guess, so it would need to sell 3 million units per year, and while that's somehow possible in 2015 and 2016, can't say the same about 2017, next Nintendo console will be around by then. 

A tabletless Wii U needs to happen (saying it for the 100th time). Tablet hasn't shown any unique factor from competition and only difference is by looks. Plus it will reduce the production cost.

26.8m lifetime is my bet

After the price cut and the poor lineup on the PS4 and Xbone, people will realize the WiiU is the only console of choice and will start to sell out. Give it 6 months and it will beat the PS4 + Xbone sales combined.

Thanks for the laugh.

We were talking about PS4 and X1 in US. According to this chart they indeed were very close the whole year with the X1 winning a few weeks. Which incidentally is the exact thing I said in my previous post.

So what are you on about?

It'd be lucky to reach 12M. #Plzgo3rdparty

Wii U will have at least 3 more years of life and will have a big price cut this is wy i think it will cross the 15M mark and, possibly, will hit the 20M mark, but most likely die in the 20M mark never reaching 25M.

why i think wiiU will have 3 more years, or even 4 years:

simple, lauching a new console in the next 2 years will be a suicide move, Nintendo is not that stupidy... lauching in 2 years will not be "the lauch of a next gen console", it will be "the current gen console that came 3 years late"! Nintendo will gain nothing whit a 1º year console fighting against other consoles that are matured in the market, at the peak of sales! it's just simple, 1 year console (that normaly is the weakest year of a console) vs 3 years old consoles at peak = another failure. No matter the gimmick that intendo will create, a 1 year console vs two 3 years consoles whit huge 3º party support, nintendo don't have a chance!

3 years > the possiblity of being called "the current gen console that came 4 years late" stillexist, but if nintendo works on something revolutionary... well, it can work, if nintendo succeds at creating something great and start a true "next gen", but.... it's still dangerous, Sony and microsoft will have 4 years old consoles, that can still be main products for 2 more years (easy). If nintendo revolutionary gimmick works Xbox/Playstation can just copy and improve it, something that will be terrible for nintendo.

4 years > it's a pain in the ass to keep a product that is not working on the market for 6 years, the good side... like the gamecube, WiiU is making profit for nintendo, it is small profit, but still profit. they sell the harware whit no, or very small, loss and the "Software monopoly" is a huge win for nintendo, because their ips sell well, even whit a small hardware base. (look at Mario kart, the thing have very solid sales! and games like starfox and Zelda are going to have solid numbers and sell even more consoles).

Back  to the 4 years plan, well, this is a interesting option, why you ask? Because this gen will be short for Xbox one (i bet 5 years life as the main console) and they will lauch another xbox. As a matter of fact, Ps4 will dominate this gen, will have more than 50% market share and will have a advantage of, at the very least, 50%-60% over xbox one. Microsot isn't in this game to be nº2, they are going to do the same tehy did whit original xbox, a small gen, and a fast lauch of a console! this is nintendo chance! they need to lauch whit the next xbox and "ride the hype" of the "next gen console" togeter whit Microsoft to make pressure on Sony! Sony will make everything possible to make this gen a long gen! because the Ps4 is set for a lanslide win and a "early" next gen lauch can be too expensive for sony that have big "money problems".
that is a very interesting route for nintendo. Keep the low profit, focus on 3ds, and when MS lauch a new console  ride the "next gen hype train" whit microsoft, put pressure on sony and make this generation short! this way Nintendo not only put a end for this gen. early, whit MS help, but have more time for working on a good console for next gen.

How much profit are they really going to make on a system that only sells 15m? Especially since it only started turning this year?

And GC didnt sell at a profit, the GBA did which was enough to offset whatever the hell was happening to GC. 3DS isnt really doing that for WIi U.

With that being said I still say it could reach close to 20mil out of sheer stubborness