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tak13 said:

What is chaos child?A jrpg?


Visual Novel.  

Part of a "Science Adventure" series that has proved pretty popular in the past.  Here's the most famous entry:

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=steins%3Bgate



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Kresnik said:

Well then...

3DS hardware is actually decent. It's down YoY, but I think that's probably excusable at this point in its life. It isn't ideal to be slowing down now for Nintendo since WiiU isn't taking off in its place, but it had a strong early life so that's excusable.

Vita sales are poor. It should be seeing more of a holiday boost. Phantasy Star Nova has been hugely disappointing for it.

WiiU sales are even more poor. I know, I know, no bundles etc. etc. It's still terrible that a console which has no momentum all year and relies on the holidays, and on the back of one of the biggest releases it'll ever get in its life, to be performing so badly. I'm guessing the console is done soon.

PS4... ehh. I don't wanna comment on this too much until we've seen what it does in Feb/Mar.

And XB1. I guess Chaos Child didn't do anything for it then? (But exclusive Japanese support! Steins;Gate sold 200k on PSP!)

Software wise, it's slightly better. The 3DS version of Smash is performing very well. And in fact, all the 3DS legs software is very good - Animal Crossing in particular is very impressive.

Final Fantasy Explorers... I don't know what to think really.  It's an average performance.  From the viewpoint of the fact that the game looked quite cheap to make, it did well.  From the viewpoint of the fact that the game is a Final Fantasy title in a massively popular genre launching on the stronger performing hardware in Japan at the moment, it's pretty poor.  I don't know what Square-Enix were expecting from it.

Neptunia's opening is also amusing. I was worried this entry was going to see a big drop off because it was so close to Victory, but nope. Nep-Nep's fanbase is rock-solid, and there aren't many franchises that can say that.

Gundam Breaker is pretty disappointing compared to the first game. But, it's pleasing to see that the PSV version is well up over the last game. I know that was a late port, but it was also bundled with an LE console which surely would've helped sales, so to see it selling better on its own is good.

Godzilla... lol. Why bother?

I notice Taiko no Tatsujin on WiiU is back in again... and so is the 3DS version. That WiiU version was an error, imo. I don't know which console it should've been on this year (3DS?), but it definitely shouldn't have been WiiU.

Yeah,Japanese market is in a really bad path!For 3ds the yoy down is slight,I would say negligible if you allow me,and it was the first time since new3ds/xl released,so we can say that the only bright spot in Japan is 3ds...!Did you expect this turn for psvita,can we say that the future of it probably becomes bleak even in Japan?

wii u has outsold  psvita,which is a handheld for three straight times and may for fourth on dec,while wii u it's quite yoy down.

As luck would have it,wasn't below ps4.

Ninsect,said that sony products have the last week as their best selling week  of the year,consequently psvita should be above wii u next week according to ninsect and stop wii u winning streak against it!

What happened in your opinion?2014 was seeming to be a promising year for psv sales in Japan and sony had boasted for the decent psv perfomance in Japan!Did psvita need a revision,new3ds/xl afflicted it?What?



tak13 said:

Yeah,Japanese market is in a really bad path!For 3ds the yoy down is slight,I would say negligible if you allow me,and it was the first time since new3ds/xl released,so we can say that the only bright spot in Japan is 3ds...!Did you expect this turn for psvita,can we say that the future of it probably becomes bleak even in Japan?

wii u has outsold  psvita,which is a handheld for three straight times and may for fourth on dec,while wii u it's quite yoy down.

As luck would have it,wasn't below ps4.

Ninsect,said that sony products have the last week as their best selling week  of the year,consequently psvita should be above wii u next week according to ninsect and stop wii u winning streak against it!

What happened in your opinion?2014 was seeming to be a promising year for psv sales in Japan and sony had boasted for the decent psv perfomance in Japan!Did psvita need a revision,new3ds/xl afflicted it?What?


... what?

Vita has been selling consistently all year.  WiIU has been down in the dumps all year.  It really doesn't matter if it has outsold is these past few weeks - you'd expect it to.  Nintendo hardware gets its biggest boosts from holidays as it's more likely to be a gift given by adults to children.

The week Ninsect is talking about is the final week of the year - which includes New Year's Eve and New Year's day.  That isn't next week.  Next week. WiiU will still be above Vita.

The reason he's saying that Vita will get a boost is  something like this -  parents given children money at the New Year in Japan and the children then go out and spend this money on consoles they want.  In the past, we've always seen bigger hardware gains from Sony consoles rather than Nintendo consoles.  This is in comparison to the run up to the holidays when parents are buying FOR children and therefore more likely to get Nintendo stuff.

Check previous years for more evidence of what he is talking about:

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41644/Japan/

Japan Hardware by Platform

PlatformWeekly (change)Total
3DS 184,135 (-10%) 14,901,371
PSV 80,736 (-0%) 2,398,237
WiiU 55,723 (-26%) 1,579,424
PS3 40,673 (+42%) 9,773,431
PSP 12,886 (+33%) 19,931,856
Wii 1,479 (-36%) 12,759,081
X360 782 (+11%) 1,653,241
Total376,414(-6%) 

 

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41280/Japan/

Japan Hardware by Platform

PlatformWeekly (change)Total
3DS 294,665 (+14%) 10,101,381
WiiU 69,705 (-6%) 703,082
PS3 64,803 (+22%) 8,960,358
PSP 53,520 (+41%) 19,538,210
PSV 31,837 (+65%) 1,140,841
Wii 5,451 (-27%) 12,688,171
X360 1,573 (-25%) 1,631,523
DS 513 (+5%) 32,980,109
Total522,067(+15%) 

 

Vita needs games.  That's the only thing that's hamstringing it in Japan at the minute.  The hardware is fine; the competition is fine.  It just has no major IP's on it outside of arguably God Eater, and a port of Final Fantasy.  It needs the staples that have always kept PS consoles afloat in Japan like Final Fantasy; Resident Evil; Gran Turismo; Metal Gear Solid and more recently Monster Hunter.

At the moment, it's getting a massive amount of niche games and it's selling like a niche machine.  It's never going to break out of that cycle without bigger IP's.



Kresnik said:
tak13 said:

Yeah,Japanese market is in a really bad path!For 3ds the yoy down is slight,I would say negligible if you allow me,and it was the first time since new3ds/xl released,so we can say that the only bright spot in Japan is 3ds...!Did you expect this turn for psvita,can we say that the future of it probably becomes bleak even in Japan?

wii u has outsold  psvita,which is a handheld for three straight times and may for fourth on dec,while wii u it's quite yoy down.

As luck would have it,wasn't below ps4.

Ninsect,said that sony products have the last week as their best selling week  of the year,consequently psvita should be above wii u next week according to ninsect and stop wii u winning streak against it!

What happened in your opinion?2014 was seeming to be a promising year for psv sales in Japan and sony had boasted for the decent psv perfomance in Japan!Did psvita need a revision,new3ds/xl afflicted it?What?


... what?

Vita has been selling consistently all year.  WiIU has been down in the dumps all year.  It really doesn't matter if it has outsold is these past few weeks - you'd expect it to.  Nintendo hardware gets its biggest boosts from holidays as it's more likely to be a gift given by adults to children.

The week Ninsect is talking about is the final week of the year - which includes New Year's Eve and New Year's day.  That isn't next week.  Next week. WiiU will still be above Vita.

The reason he's saying that Vita will get a boost is  something like this -  parents given children money at the New Year in Japan and the children then go out and spend this money on consoles they want.  In the past, we've always seen bigger hardware gains from Sony consoles rather than Nintendo consoles.  This is in comparison to the run up to the holidays when parents are buying FOR children and therefore more likely to get Nintendo stuff.

Check previous years for more evidence of what he is talking about:

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41644/Japan/

Japan Hardware by Platform

PlatformWeekly (change)Total
3DS 184,135 (-10%) 14,901,371
PSV 80,736 (-0%) 2,398,237
WiiU 55,723 (-26%) 1,579,424
PS3 40,673 (+42%) 9,773,431
PSP 12,886 (+33%) 19,931,856
Wii 1,479 (-36%) 12,759,081
X360 782 (+11%) 1,653,241
Total376,414(-6%) 

 

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41280/Japan/

Japan Hardware by Platform

PlatformWeekly (change)Total
3DS 294,665 (+14%) 10,101,381
WiiU 69,705 (-6%) 703,082
PS3 64,803 (+22%) 8,960,358
PSP 53,520 (+41%) 19,538,210
PSV 31,837 (+65%) 1,140,841
Wii 5,451 (-27%) 12,688,171
X360 1,573 (-25%) 1,631,523
DS 513 (+5%) 32,980,109
Total522,067(+15%) 

 

Vita needs games.  That's the only thing that's hamstringing it in Japan at the minute.  The hardware is fine; the competition is fine.  It just has no major IP's on it outside of arguably God Eater, and a port of Final Fantasy.  It needs the staples that have always kept PS consoles afloat in Japan like Final Fantasy; Resident Evil; Gran Turismo; Metal Gear Solid and more recently Monster Hunter.

At the moment, it's getting a massive amount of niche games and it's selling like a niche machine.  It's never going to break out of that cycle without bigger IP's.

Thank you krezzy,very enlightening!



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Are the new numbers not releasing today?



thelalaby said:
Are the new numbers not releasing today?


I checked the last week sales thread of previous years on gaf and I saw that all have been posted one week later!

So no,we won't have last week's sales this week!:P



tak13 said:
Ninsect said:

Not to me...? 3DS is on a downwards spiral and will likely not sell much over 1-1.5m in 2016 in Japan. Meanwhile, PS4 will be getting almost all Japanese 3rd party support

Japanese games won't make miracles as you imply...!3DS got new 3ds and there are some games to come!Delta emerald,pokemon Z,wii ports to New 3ds etc!It will never fall below 2m before it gets its successor!A home console to outsell 3DS in Japan,UTOPIA!

What? That has happened many many times before when handhelds are dying.



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No numbers today, goddamn. Was looking forward to seeing if the trend of recent years where PS consoles get a boost and Nintendo ones drop holds true.



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Ninsect said:
No numbers today, goddamn. Was looking forward to seeing if the trend of recent years where PS consoles get a boost and Nintendo ones drop holds true.

You won't wait a lot!...I think we will get them on Monday!Saturday is quite possible too!