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Maybe 27 8.79%
 
No, not in hell! 89 28.99%
 
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This guy points out the reasons his household chose WiiU. You can't call those reasons weak. Those 5 things were important to him. He's not arguing demographics or markets, he's arguing his wants and needs in his home. His points are not even debatable because it's about his desires, not yours.

It's amazing how people get so defensive over it lol.



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ryuzaki57 said:

you can't win anything with so few games, end of the discussion

But you can, this has been proved many times



Razeak said:
This guy points out the reasons his household chose WiiU. You can't call those reasons weak. Those 5 things were important to him. He's not arguing demographics or markets, he's arguing his wants and needs in his home. His points are not even debatable because it's about his desires, not yours.

It's amazing how people get so defensive over it lol.

Having an opinion on the article = defensive? lulz

What's the point of even posting this if we can't comment on it? Just read and all agree?

I can't say that a point like "the company itself" is a weak reason when I can make that point for almost any company?

I disagree with that



tbone51 said:
ryuzaki57 said: you can't win anything with so few games, end of the discussion

But you can, this has been proved many times

Please elaborate then. I don't remember any generation leader without the most solid offer of games.



6. Off screen play and dual screen local mutiplayer. Being able to continue a game while your kid switches the channel or vice versa is in fact my number 1 reason.



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ryuzaki57 said:
tbone51 said:
ryuzaki57 said: you can't win anything with so few games, end of the discussion

But you can, this has been proved many times

Please elaborate then. I don't remember any generation leader without the most solid offer of games.


Just ask a hardcore Sony fan which has the most solid offer of games, PSP or DS...or Vita and 3DS...



sales2099 said:
Dusk said:
sales2099 said:
Well for one the "winner" is defined by lifetime sales and if the console war lasted from Nov 2012-Nov 2013 then yes, WiiU won the console war ;)

That said, in short,

-Backwards compatability is a feature requested by a minority of gamers. Most people tend to just....move on.
- It's software is unique but severely lacking in 3rd party support, meaning WiiU is "the console you buy after you have a Xb1 or PS4".
- The company itself has a tradition of doing its own thing (for better or for worse) while neglecting the cutting edge tech/services that Sony and MS have adopted for years....even generations. And to be frank, they cater to a family audience at all times, neglecting those who have grown up since their youthful experiences with Nintendo hardware.

But its couch gaming and value do have merit. Playing from the tablet with the TV doing something else is a very underrated feature.

They don't just cater to the family audience, that's incorrect but something that people like to say. It's also quite goofy really. What makes a game mature? Is it the swearing? nudity? Sex? drug use? Killing? All these are generally found in teen movies or movies directed at a teen audience, at least in the amount that consist in many of the "mature" games lol. 

I can't resist these comments.

Well for one I certainly wouldn't recomend a Quentin Tarantino movie to a young child. Excessive profanity, sex, and violence is not suitable for young audiences. For me, very bright colours everywhere represents a world made for young people. Adults tend to like more realistic depictions ie. gritty settings and darker tones that more represent the world we live in (and its seedier elements).

Another being rich storylines. That is what I define as mature. Rich lore, layered characters, plot twists, detailed extended universes.......reasons to play a game beyond the gameplay. Nintendo makes games for the sole purpose of fun. And that's fine. But in this regard is why Nintendo isn't my go-to console for adult games.

 
True. However, I'm trying to figure out how if something is unfit for a child, how does that automatically make it fit for an adult or mature? Well, you could just open your eyes and look around I suppose. There is a vast array of colours everywhere, does that mean we live in a world made for young people? Find a brighter blue than the sky, or a brighter yellow than the sun. As an adult it is up to them to choose what they see. There is of course reality, which is filled with everything, but it comes down to your view on it. There is just as much colour and warmth around as there is bleak and colourless tones. 

If I want a rich story line I'm probably going to sit down and read a book. At times these can be found in games, but usually to a much lesser extent, only a few actually succeed in bringing a good story and good game together. But I gotta say, there is a crap ton of lore, layered characters, plot twitsts and detalied extended universes in even Mario games lol. Take a look at all the Mario games lol. From the first to Sunshine, Galaxy and most recently 3D World. Vast variance in worlds and a bunch of lore in it, but mostly with a lack of story. Mario RPG, Paper Mario and Thousand Year Door certainly inbue what you classify as adult. Oddly enough, so do the stories of Harry Potter (started as a childrens books and became teen books), even C.S. Lewis' Chronicles of Narnia (all of which are childrens books) and even Star Wars was meant for children. If TLOU looked like mario (colours and all) but still had the same story as it does, would it be adult? Yes, the story and connotation make it more adult oriented, even if they cut out all the expletives, not the graphics or colours. 



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ryuzaki57 said:
tbone51 said:
ryuzaki57 said: you can't win anything with so few games, end of the discussion

But you can, this has been proved many times

Please elaborate then. I don't remember any generation leader without the most solid offer of games.


Wii^ (PS3/X360 had a ton more amount of games thanks to the enormous 3rd party support, as wii's 3rd party was 99% shovelware)

But i wasnt talking about that. "you can't win anything with so few games, end of the discussion" 1. Op wasnt talking about Console wars sales and 2. Like in your thread Vita has alot more games especially in the past 2 years than 3ds yet it loses very bad in HW department (and SW)

Edit: and those few games you mention really do make the WiiU just as good if not better than PS4/X1 in many gamers eyes. Wii sold by far the most and aside from a few great awesome games like SMG(2) on it, It had the worse library of any nintendo HC (imo of course). SALES =/= Quantity everytime.



I agree with all of the points basically. There wasn't much agonising over my choice at the time and we intend to get another console as well (though if had to choose only one, it would be the Wii U). The release of Pikmin 3 and Zelda WWHD had made me think it was about time to get a Wii U, and when Super Mario 3D World came out it sealed the deal, with the future promise of a Super Smash Bros, Zelda and Mario Kart title enough to sell me on a system. Local multiplayer was really important for me as well, PS4 and Xbox One so far appear to have basically zero appeal on that front so far outside of Halo. Value wise I was able to get the wind Waker Bundle with Super Mario 3D World and a Pro controller for around £300, so that's immediate great local multiplayer and a wonderful Zelda game (one which I hadn't played that much having only borrowed the original to complete it). For less than £400 total we added Pikmin 3, Rayman Legends and another controller,and with the Wii Motion Plus controller from Skyward sword remaining compatible that gives 4 useful controllers for if several people are round and we wanted to play local multiplayer (Gampad + Pro controller are enough for the serious gaming). The other new consoles had just released at the time - for £400 I think at best I would have ended up with the console, a single controller and a single launch title, none of which particularly interested me, and it would be the only game I could play (and depending on the game I would only get the most out of it after paying for the online service). Value-wise there was no contest between Wii U and the other consoles, though obviously that is different now depending on your taste in games.

Backwards compatibility wasn't really a major reason for me getting a Wii U (I still have my Wii set up as well, though funnily enough that is only for its own backwards compatibility functionality so that I can play Gamecube games...), but it is a bit of a turn off for the other two consoles. I will probably be getting an Xbox One at some point, but that point would probably already have occurred if I knew I could just replace our Xbox 360 in the living room with it. There is limited space for primary consoles at the TV (and the fact that the Xbox One is so bulky doesn't help here), and while Halo MCC being released definitely makes replacing the 360 with the One an easier choice for me (assuming the multiplayer will eventually function properly), we have a ton of Xbox 360 games that my girlfriend especially would still like to play. Right now (especially with the new Assassin's Creed, which would have probably have been a "system seller" for my girlfriend, being a buggy mess) it almost doesn't seem worth it to relegate the 360 to the other room alongside consoles like the PS2 and The Dreamcast, considering the games we can currently play on it compared to what we would feasibly get as initial games on the Xbox One.

So yeah, value and local multiplayer experience are big positives for me choosing the Wii U too. And of course I want to support Nintendo as I want to continue to be able to get their games and consoles in the future. But really games are the key.

 

Edit: And just in case it's somehow not clear, those are my thoughts on why the Wii U "won the console war in my house", i.e. why it was the (first) one I decided to buy. I am not predicting that the Wii U will sell the most...

 

Additional Edit: It's quite unfortunate and ironic that the two games this year that  would have been the bankable "must-haves" to sell the Xbox One to our household (Halo Collection for me and Assassin's Creed for my girlfriend) were both botched at launch.



KLXVER said:
ryuzaki57 said:
tbone51 said:
ryuzaki57 said: you can't win anything with so few games, end of the discussion

But you can, this has been proved many times

Please elaborate then. I don't remember any generation leader without the most solid offer of games.


Just ask a hardcore Sony fan which has the most solid offer of games, PSP or DS...or Vita and 3DS...

PSP has it between those 4, but since the Vita already has everything the PSP has and more, Vita it is.