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kowenicki said:
DerNebel said:
kowenicki said:


Thinking about it, I doubt its even top 10 now... so it was a very bad (biased) example.

Cause, that's the fucking point he was trying to make, right? His point was "look Sony is in the top 5 smartphone manufacturers", jesus christ, for a dude that loves to rub his intelligence and insight in everyones face you can turn incredibly thick when it comes to defending MS and downplaying Sony.

And you wonder why half of this site hates you.

oh deary me... wow. 

you seem to have gotten very excited in your response and made an error.  because that celarly wasnt  the point he was making and actually wasnt the main part of my response....  so your post is somewhat ironic.


Emotions can get the best of people



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thelalaby said:
The damage control and panicking in this thread is unlike anything I've seen in a while on VGC... I must admit, it's quite fun to read!

Anyway, both PS4 and Xbone are doing great, but obviously PS4 is doing a little better as the recent ratios indicate. I expect PS4 to be comfortably ahead this week thanks to the hardware bundles.


Yeah. But its fun to read those damage control. I am laughing while reading.



Oh my god, DerNebel let's just abandon the thread. Kowen and jlmurph's comprehension skills are off today.



daredevil.shark said:
thelalaby said:
The damage control and panicking in this thread is unlike anything I've seen in a while on VGC... I must admit, it's quite fun to read!

Anyway, both PS4 and Xbone are doing great, but obviously PS4 is doing a little better as the recent ratios indicate. I expect PS4 to be comfortably ahead this week thanks to the hardware bundles.


Yeah. But its fun to read those damage control. I am laughing while reading.


Yeah, this thread is really a fountain of joy



From distant 2nd place in multiplats in the uk of the PS3, to a comfortable lead in basically every multiplat titles with the PS4, sure we can all agree that PS has come a long way and the gap will only continue to wide over the next months. That's the whole thing about leadership, not yet domination but soon things can go that way even in the UK.



...Let the Sony Domination continue with the PS4...
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How much did Dragon Age II sell first week? Halo Collection placed right under the Xbone version... if someone has the numbers for DAII, then we can approximately know how much it sold this week and figure out the percentage



walsufnir said:

Huh? It can't fit as there is no definition in there: " In defining market dominance, you must see to what extent a product, brand, or firm controls a product category in a given geographic area." And what do we see now? There is no "if your sales ratio is above x % higher than the other one, you dominate".

Because the % of sales ration variates in case to case.

Exemple:

A (40%), B (10%), C (15%), D (15%), E (20%) = Case of dominance.

A (50%) B (40%), C (5%), D (3%), E (2%) = No dominance.

If it is a two product scenario... the dominance can be defined by:

"A company, brand, product, or service that has a combined market share exceeding 60% most probably has market power and market dominance."

So if you think about two players you have PS (49%) and Xbox (42%) and a cleary case of non dominance.

But when you add the fact there are 5 players:

PS4 (42%), XB1 (30%), 360 (12%), PC (9%), PS3 (6%)

You start to see some kind of dominance and it is more evident when 360 was the dominated console until a year ago.

Yeap I used the DA:I example because it is a subjective case of dominance... so if you can understand this case then you will see why the others case are cleary objective dominances:

Far Cry 4

50% PS4
30% XB1
11% 360
6% PS3

GTA V (this case it missed by 2% the 60% of the market)

58% PS4
41% XB1



kowenicki said:
DerNebel said:
kowenicki said:
Talal said:


He said it was an example...

Thinking about it, I doubt its even top 10 now... so it was a very bad (biased) example.

Cause, that's the fucking point he was trying to make, right? His point was "look Sony is in the top 5 smartphone manufacturers", jesus christ, for a dude that loves to rub his intelligence and insight in everyones face you can turn incredibly thick when it comes to defending MS and downplaying Sony.

And you wonder why half of this site hates you.

oh deary me... wow. 

you seem to have gotten very excited in your response and made an error.  because that celarly wasnt  the point he was making and actually wasnt the main part of my response....  so your post is somewhat ironic.


DerNebel was obviously ironic about "Sony is in the top 5" being the point of ethomaz.



fluky-nintendy said:
From distant 2nd place in multiplats in the uk, to a comfortable lead in basically every multiplat titles, sure we can all agree that PS has come a long way and the gap will only continue to wide over the next months. That's the whole about about leadership, not yet domination but soon things can go that way even in the UK.


Exactly, it is *not* domination. MS for example dominates the PC operating system market. THIS is domination.



Bail said:
kowenicki said:
DerNebel said:

Cause, that's the fucking point he was trying to make, right? His point was "look Sony is in the top 5 smartphone manufacturers", jesus christ, for a dude that loves to rub his intelligence and insight in everyones face you can turn incredibly thick when it comes to defending MS and downplaying Sony.

And you wonder why half of this site hates you.

oh deary me... wow. 

you seem to have gotten very excited in your response and made an error.  because that celarly wasnt  the point he was making and actually wasnt the main part of my response....  so your post is somewhat ironic.


DerNebel was obviously ironic about "Sony is in the top 5" being the point of ethomaz.


I think you mean sarcastic