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Forums - Sales Discussion - Prediction: Xbox One Will Outsell Wii U by 500k+ in October as well!

Ka-pi96 said:
QuintonMcLeod said:
chapset said:

The thing is it's not only halo lol, it's halo, cod,minecraft, dragon age, far cry, ass creed, gta V vs smash and what?


I suppose that makes sense, but as sales have proven, multiplats aren't what sell a system. Exclusives are. COD, Minecraft, DragonAge, Far Cry, Assassin's Creed and GTA aren't exclusive. A person who owns a PC or a PS4 already have easy access to all of those games. What incentive would they have for getting an Xbone?

ummmm, what sales are you looking at? I saw huge boosts for both PS4 and Xbox One when Destiny and FIFA were released.


I'm looking at the total system sales and how fast the system is selling. The PS4 has already surpassed the Wii U, but the Xbone appears to be struggling with surpassing the Wii U, even though it has more 3rd party support.



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I don't think it will do that. If say about 325-350k for October. But I think it will outsell it 650k for November. So 1 million between the 2 months.



Halo MCC will sell 5+ million copies(including digital)

halo 5 will sell 10 million copies(including digital)

x1 will pass ps4 in USA, and UK.

nah Wii u is strong this october and november



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Ka-pi96 said:
QuintonMcLeod said:
Ka-pi96 said:

ummmm, what sales are you looking at? I saw huge boosts for both PS4 and Xbox One when Destiny and FIFA were released.

I'm looking at the total system sales and how fast the system is selling. The PS4 has already surpassed the Wii U, but the Xbone appears to be struggling with surpassing the Wii U, even though it has more 3rd party support.

What about the PS4 though, most if it's sales have come off the back of multplat games rather than exclusives. Proof that multiplats do sell consoles.

I'm really not too sure, and neither is Sony. Sony even said themselves they didn't know why the PS4 was selling so well. My guess would be that initial momentum Sony had a year ago. Some are predicting that momentum will end soon. As for me, I honestly just don't know.



QuintonMcLeod said:

I'm really not too sure, and neither is Sony. Sony even said themselves they didn't know why the PS4 was selling so well. My guess would be that initial momentum Sony had a year ago. Some are predicting that momentum will end soon. As for me, I honestly just don't know.

lol one doesn't need to be a genious to see that multiplats sell consoles. Look at the sales for the PS4, X1 whenever a big multiplat has released.



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Ka-pi96 said:
QuintonMcLeod said:
Ka-pi96 said:

What about the PS4 though, most if it's sales have come off the back of multplat games rather than exclusives. Proof that multiplats do sell consoles.

I'm really not too sure, and neither is Sony. Sony even said themselves they didn't know why the PS4 was selling so well. My guess would be that initial momentum Sony had a year ago. Some are predicting that momentum will end soon. As for me, I honestly just don't know.

What's not to know? They just made the console people wanted. If Microsoft hadn't screwed up their launch as much then the total numbers for PS+Xbox would still be about the same just with Xbox having a higher percentage.

Exclusives aren't needed to sell consoles, the highest selling games on most consoles are usually multiplats.

I think you're basing this from what you've been seeing this generation. That's fine and all, but the video game industry spans back over 30 years, and according to 30+ years of historical data, exclusives sell systems. This is also the case with other mediums such as VHS vs Betamax and etc. The content was on VHS, so it sold better.

As for console gaming, there's a significant shift in console gaming sales. The console market is shrinking, while the PC gaming market is growing (and very rapidly). I don't believe that the PS4 sold because it was the console people wanted. I think people felt that perhaps there was no other console solution to go to other than the PS4. As the months went by, gamers started to realize that their games weren't running in the fidelity they were promised and began migrating over to the PC. 



justgames7604 said:
nah Wii u is strong this october and november

And mostly December.



QuintonMcLeod said:
chapset said:
QuintonMcLeod said:
bubblegamer said:
QuintonMcLeod said:
kowenicki said:
250k ish in october

much more in Novemeber

and more again in December

By Jan 1st, the lifetime lead is substantial.


But isn't Smash Bros coming out in November. Are people assuming zero Wii Us will be sold during that time?

These numbers are with Smash in mind. Maybe you're overestimating it?

Well....

Halo has more hardcore fans than casual fans. However, Smash Bros has way more casual fans than hardcore fans. Because Smash Bros caters to both audiences while Halo really only caters to one, it's probably safe to say that Smash Bros will push more systems than Halo would.

I'm just going by historical data.

The thing is it's not only halo lol, it's halo, cod,minecraft, dragon age, far cry, ass creed, gta V vs smash and what?


I suppose that makes sense, but as sales have proven, multiplats aren't what sell a system. Exclusives are. COD, Minecraft, DragonAge, Far Cry, Assassin's Creed and GTA aren't exclusive. A person who owns a PC or a PS4 already have easy access to all of those games. What incentive would they have for getting an Xbone?

Cod will probably provide a bigger boost than smash lol, ass creed and GTA will also boost a lot the X1, the rest will just keep it selling strong



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QuintonMcLeod said:

I think you're basing this from what you've been seeing this generation. That's fine and all, but the video game industry spans back over 30 years, and according to 30+ years of historical data, exclusives sell systems. This is also the case with other mediums such as VHS vs Betamax and etc. The content was on VHS, so it sold better.

As for console gaming, there's a significant shift in console gaming sales. The console market is shrinking, while the PC gaming market is growing (and very rapidly). I don't believe that the PS4 sold because it was the console people wanted. I think people felt that perhaps there was no other console solution to go to other than the PS4. As the months went by, gamers started to realize that their games weren't running in the fidelity they were promised and began migrating over to the PC. 

That's why your information is so illogical! You're basing the sales in 2014 on what happened in the 80's! You need to update your logic.



bubblegamer said:
QuintonMcLeod said:

I'm really not too sure, and neither is Sony. Sony even said themselves they didn't know why the PS4 was selling so well. My guess would be that initial momentum Sony had a year ago. Some are predicting that momentum will end soon. As for me, I honestly just don't know.

lol one doesn't need to be a genious to see that multiplats sell consoles. Look at the sales for the PS4, X1 whenever a big multiplat has released.


Well, also look at the quality of those games that are selling. You'll notice that a lot of those big games are rated poorly, because they're over hyped and over marketed. I think what's really happening is that consumers are losing confidence. I say this because the console market is shrinking while the PC gaming market is growing. Eventually, games on these consoles may not sell as high anymore due to how so many people are being misled. When a product loses consumer confidence, it usually dies.