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burninmylight said:
MohammadBadir said:

The series that's in it's final arc and put its anime on hiatus so the manga could finish, costing it much popularity in the process, is a bigger chashgrab than OP?


The Bleach anime is on hiatus because it was about to lose its Japanese timeslot to something else (Fairy Tail, if I remember correctly), not due to some altruistic reasoning by the director. I'll look for a link if you'd prefer.

Sure thing!
I remember reading that the animation studio was just tired of making more filler though (Almost half the Bleach anime is filler D:).



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MohammadBadir said:
VanceIX said:

So we are going to ignore the cringe-worthy amount of filler that the Naruto anime had before, not to mention the noticeable drop in quality during and after the Pain arc?

I'm talking about Bleach XP

Ever worse then. Bleach arguably took an even bigger nose dive than Naruto after the Aizen arc, and the hiatus was not there to let the manga get ahead, it was just because there were better shows to air at that time.



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VanceIX said:

Ever worse then. Bleach arguably took an even bigger nose dive than Naruto after the Aizen arc, and the hiatus was not there to let the manga get ahead, it was just because there were better shows to air at that time.

The Aizen arc? You mean the Arrancar arc or the SS arc? XP

I mean, The Arrancar art was definitely not something special, but the current one is definitely picking up the pace.



MohammadBadir said:
VanceIX said:

Ever worse then. Bleach arguably took an even bigger nose dive than Naruto after the Aizen arc, and the hiatus was not there to let the manga get ahead, it was just because there were better shows to air at that time.

The Aizen arc? You mean the Arrancar arc or the SS arc? XP

I mean, The Arrancar art was definitely not something special, but the current one is definitely picking up the pace.

I meant the Arrancar arc. It really feels bogged down (for me at least), and muddled plot wise. The action is still decent, but at this point I'm so lost I can't even bother.

It may have gotten better later on, but from where I left off, it wasn't anything special.



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VanceIX said:

I meant the Arrancar arc. It really feels bogged down (for me at least), and muddled plot wise. The action is still decent, but at this point I'm so lost I can't even bother.

It may have gotten better later on, but from where I left off, it wasn't anything special.

Everybody shares that opinion regarding the Arrancar arc. Kubo himself stated that he writes/draws as he goes rather than planning beforehand, which sucks.



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MohammadBadir said:
VanceIX said:

I meant the Arrancar arc. It really feels bogged down (for me at least), and muddled plot wise. The action is still decent, but at this point I'm so lost I can't even bother.

It may have gotten better later on, but from where I left off, it wasn't anything special.

Everybody shares that opinion regarding the Arrancar arc. Kubo himself stated that he writes/draws as he goes rather than planning beforehand, which sucks.

Makes sense. Bleach isn't for me anymore, but I don't begrudge anyone for liking it.



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VanceIX said:
MohammadBadir said:
VanceIX said:

I meant the Arrancar arc. It really feels bogged down (for me at least), and muddled plot wise. The action is still decent, but at this point I'm so lost I can't even bother.

It may have gotten better later on, but from where I left off, it wasn't anything special.

Everybody shares that opinion regarding the Arrancar arc. Kubo himself stated that he writes/draws as he goes rather than planning beforehand, which sucks.

Makes sense. Bleach isn't for me anymore, but I don't begrudge anyone for liking it.

For me, Bleach went from an interesting little monster-of-the-week show with potential, to a phenominal arc  in the SS that set the series up for tons of awesomeness down the line, to absolute garbage afterward. It peaked after the SS arc to rescue Rukia and everytime it came close to matching that engaging level of focus from the SS arc, BAM! Here's more filler smackdab in the middle of a big, important canon fight, tr0ll'd ya, Rick R0ll'd ya! Twice during the Hueco Mundo arc did I have to go back and study up on the characters and their abilities because of big long breaks from anything that actually mattered.

The filler got progressively worse too. The Bount arc would have been OK if it wasn't so damn long and drawn out. Compared to the trash the Naruto studio was spewing out every week at the time, the Bount arc was gold. That sword beast bullshit was an insult not only to our intelligence,  but to anyone who had been watching the show since Season 2. How the hell does Zabimaru go from an actual nue (a monster from Japanese mythology) to an bratty kid and dumb bimbo with the most retarded fighting style ever? It got better with the Fullbringer arc, but by then, all the soul had been sucked out of Bleach (no pun intended) after the disappointing conclusion with Aizen. The Bleach anime became a joke of itself.

Despite my hatred and loating for it, a part of me still loves it too. A part of me was sholding out hope for it to get back to SS arc levels again, which is why I'm so disappointed in it. Hopefully, if they return to the anime after the manga wraps up, it can be strictly business and go out with the bang it deserves.



burninmylight said:

Compared to the trash the Naruto studio was spewing out every week at the time, the Bount arc was gold. 

You do realize that the same studio who animates Bleach is also the same studio who animates Naruto ... Though I do agree that Bleach has the best fillers by far compared to the rest of the big three but that's not saying a whole lot since a lot of the fillers in Bleach are also a miss too. 



burninmylight said:

For me, Bleach went from an interesting little monster-of-the-week show with potential, to a phenominal arc  in the SS that set the series up for tons of awesomeness down the line, to absolute garbage afterward. It peaked after the SS arc to rescue Rukia and everytime it came close to matching that engaging level of focus from the SS arc, BAM! Here's more filler smackdab in the middle of a big, important canon fight, tr0ll'd ya, Rick R0ll'd ya! Twice during the Hueco Mundo arc did I have to go back and study up on the characters and their abilities because of big long breaks from anything that actually mattered.

The filler got progressively worse too. The Bount arc would have been OK if it wasn't so damn long and drawn out. Compared to the trash the Naruto studio was spewing out every week at the time, the Bount arc was gold. That sword beast bullshit was an insult not only to our intelligence,  but to anyone who had been watching the show since Season 2. How the hell does Zabimaru go from an actual nue (a monster from Japanese mythology) to an bratty kid and dumb bimbo with the most retarded fighting style ever? It got better with the Fullbringer arc, but by then, all the soul had been sucked out of Bleach (no pun intended) after the disappointing conclusion with Aizen. The Bleach anime became a joke of itself.

Despite my hatred and loating for it, a part of me still loves it too. A part of me was sholding out hope for it to get back to SS arc levels again, which is why I'm so disappointed in it. Hopefully, if they return to the anime after the manga wraps up, it can be strictly business and go out with the bang it deserves.

I also agree about the Arrancar arc, it was decent at times, bad at others, and great at times (You can't tell me the bit with Vasto Lorde Ichigo vs. Ulqiorra wasn't awesome XP), The Fullbring arc was cool, and the Thousand Year Blood War arc in the manga is amazing so far as well IMO.

Yeah, the filler sucks ass. Kubo has a terrible pacing problem (seriously, 1 episode needs like 3 or more chapters).

I haven't watched any of the fillers in their time of release (I'd stop watching whenever a new filler arc comes out), so maybe that and the fact that I primarily read the manga are the reasons I love the show so much :P

And even though I don't like the filler arcs, I do know that the Zanpakutou representations in the Zanpakutou Rebillion arc were said to may not be accurate representations of the Shinigamis' actual Zanpaukous.



Ahhh finally, its about time.

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