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Massive congrats to the PS4. How Sony have turned things around. This started long before the PS4 release and the PS3 rightfully surpassed the Wii's software sales.

Who would have though before the Wii U released that the PS4 in half the time would surpass it's software sales. How the mighty have fallen and how the other mighty have become mightier.



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It would have to be "new" to be considered "news", but seriously, everyone knows this already... -_-



padib said:
GTAexpert said:
padib said:

Fair enough. I guess my kudos to Nintendo stands in the sense that almost all the games are 1st party, while the PS4 gets the multiplats and 3rd party games.

That is still testament to Nintendo's strength as a publisher.

To support my figures I'd have to whip out my "ratio by publisher" thread I made a few months ago.

You're saying that as if its PS4's fault, but rather its the PS4's STRENGTH. Besides your argument fails due to the fact that Sony has only released 3 PS4 exclusives, all of them either very niche series for Sony or a poorly recieved new IP, and a year-old port to contribute to first-party software sales.

Meanwhile Nintendo has released 7 Wii U exclusives (8 in Japan), of which 4 games are part of their biggest series and 2 are well-recieved new IP's, and a 10 year old port to contribute to their first-party sales.

I'm saying that as if it's PS4's fault? I really have no idea what you're talking about.

Also, what I was trying to point out was that Nintendo was able to sustain SW sales almost all by itself on the U. They may have used established IPs, but that again goes to show how strong Nintendo's IPs are, when they can support a console almost entirely of themselves.

This is not a dig at Sony at all. Where Sony was able to attract 3rd parties successfully, Nintendo was able to support a console on 1st party titles alone (nearly). They are both different strengths. A manufacturer capable of both would be a scary beast to behold.

We had that in the NES. Amazing console that lacked very little for it time.

SNES to a lesser extent, EA games and a few others were definitely better on the MD/Genesis.



bubblegamer said:

I already answered you and others even tried to make you understand. It's obvious you can't/won't..


No, you're making excuses.

I'm not asking if your opinions change. I'm asking you if you believe what you say as you're saying it. You don't want to answer my question, because you and everybody else knows the answer would be "yes". If you said, "no" then you'd know that you'd be saying that you don't know what you're talking about or that you're a liar. Maybe even both.

You just accused me earlier of believing the stuff I say. Well, Professor Bubblegamer, uh huck yuck, of course I believe the stuff I say. That's called conviction. If I didn't believe it, I wouldn't say it.

A lot of the stuff you say is illogical and nonsensical. Considering you believe everything you say lets me know there's no redemption for you. I will never value your opinions. Ever. So, please stop trying to convince me to see from your point of view. Thanks.



It's amazing how some people are seeing this as positive to the Wii U when a console that is almost 2 years in the market is being surpassed by other that is just almost a year in the competition.

And this doesn't even include digital. It's very likely that the PS4 has a much higher digital sales ratio because it comes with a 500GB drive vs the 32GB maximum on the deluxe Wii U or the 8GB of the normal one.



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@ Quinton, et al.

Can we please stop this pedantic line of inquiry and get back to the topic at hand?



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the-pi-guy said:
QuintonMcLeod said:

No, you're making excuses.

I'm not asking if your opinions change. I'm asking you if you believe what you say as you're saying it. You don't want to answer my question, because you and everybody else knows the answer would be "yes". If you said, "no" then you'd know that you'd be saying that you don't know what you're talking about or that you're a liar. Maybe even both.

You just accused me earlier of believing the stuff I say. Well, Professor Bubblegamer, uh huck yuck, of course I believe the stuff I say. That's called conviction. If I didn't believe it, I wouldn't say it.

A lot of the stuff you say is illogical and nonsensical. Considering you believe everything you say lets me know there's no redemption for you. I will never value your opinions. Ever. So, please stop trying to convince me to see from your point of view. Thanks.

So I have to use better words for this.  

There's arguing from a point of perspective and arguing from a point of fact.  

Arguing from a point of perspective, this is what I believe vs arguing from a point of fact, this is what I know.

Does he believe what he says?  

In statistics I learned about something called "confidence intervals."  There are no "facts" in statistics.  There's no "this is what it is."  It's more like "We are 95% confident the answer is somewhere in here."  

It's not about believing what he said as fact, but rather being [mostly] confident that it is.  

 

Is bubblegamer confident that he has the right answer?  

I would guess he usually is, or if not he's going to be asking.  

Does he always absolutely believe everything he says as absolute fact?  

Absolutely not.  There's no reason to have a conversation if you're going to assume you're always right.  


You're looking way too hard into this.



Mr Khan said:
@ Quinton, et al.

Can we please stop this pedantic line of inquiry and get back to the topic at hand?


I believe I was stating that it's unfair for people to count multiplats against a console that is not getting those same multiplats. Its like comparing PC games sales to the consoles. The PC will obviously have more multiplat games that have not and probably never will grace the PS4, but counting them anyway. The best way, I believe, would be to compare total sales of exclusive titles for each system.

This is similar to when people celebrated the PS4 outselling the 3DS for one single month. I just don't see the significance in celebrating something so miniscule.



QuintonMcLeod said:
Mr Khan said:
@ Quinton, et al.

Can we please stop this pedantic line of inquiry and get back to the topic at hand?


I believe I was stating that it's unfair for people to count multiplats against a console that is not getting those same multiplats. Its like comparing PC games sales to the consoles. The PC will obviously have more multiplat games that have not and probably never will grace the PS4, but counting them anyway. The best way, I believe, would be to compare total sales of exclusive titles for each system.

This is similar to when people celebrated the PS4 outselling the 3DS for one single month. I just don't see the significance in celebrating something so miniscule.

While I understand where you are coming from. Comparing two gaming consoles and their total sales makes more sense in my eyes though. Nit picking the games is what is kind of odd. There are 3rd party games on the Wii U that will never come to PS4/XB1 and those are counted but no one is complaining about that side. Comparing the total sales of both is the only real logical and fair way. It gives everything both have and leaves nothing out so it is an even playing field. Both have exclusive and multiplat games that will never appear on the other so it evens out. Just because one system gets more 3rd party support thant he other that doesn't mean we have to "handicap" one system so the ther will have a better shot.

When you take everything both systems have then it is fair to me. Besides this thread is about TOTAL software sales anyway if you felt it better to compare exclusive software sales then by all means I say make a thread about it. But no point in derailing a thread with something you prefer that is just kind of silly if you ask me. But again your side of the story is well understood.



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QuintonMcLeod said:
Mr Khan said:
@ Quinton, et al.

Can we please stop this pedantic line of inquiry and get back to the topic at hand?


I believe I was stating that it's unfair for people to count multiplats against a console that is not getting those same multiplats. Its like comparing PC games sales to the consoles. The PC will obviously have more multiplat games that have not and probably never will grace the PS4, but counting them anyway. The best way, I believe, would be to compare total sales of exclusive titles for each system.

This is similar to when people celebrated the PS4 outselling the 3DS for one single month. I just don't see the significance in celebrating something so miniscule.


Your point has been shot down a thousand times in this thread. Now stop bolding your font, which is incredibly annoying to look at, and move on.