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July 2014 NPD Thread! PS4: 187k, XBO: 131k, Wii U: 81k

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Seece said:
OfficerRaichu15 said:
Seece said:

Hardly see Europe being a whole lot better, it's never been over or under US by a whole lot, probably very similar numbers. And until recently Japan was about 8k a week for WiiU.

true and in response to ninsect I say it is overtracked but by 225k :P


Super interesting to see what they ship in Q3. So far they're trending lower, and they only shipped 510k last Q as it is.

Ill add some constructive aurgument to this but i think they are shippping less in preperation of smash bros and holidays :)



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Soundwave said:

There will be a Nintendo "fusion" platform, sooner than later I'm thinking at this point. Nintendo will bail on the Wii U once they have completed Zelda and thus given the Wii U a prerequisite amount of Nintendo IP.


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I'm not really convinced Wii U got a bump from Mario Kart that lasted more than a week. It sold 140,000 in five weeks, not four for June, and 83,000 in July for four weeks, not five, so you're looking at 28,000 / week in June to 21,000 / week in July. June is when people graduate from school or college often times, and it's Father's Day, it's typically a bit better than July for everybody on a weekly basis, so it's hard to say if Mario Kart really did anything in the US.

I've always worked on the assumption that the original Wii sold because it had a monopoloy on motion control gaming from 2006-2010 and then declined when it no longer had that monopoly. Every game in that 2006-2010 that expanded the monopoly into new genres reinforced the Wii or prevented it from weakning - the kings being Mario Kart for racing, Just Dance for dancing, and so on, but now that there is no motion monopoly, games are just games, and the people buying them are people who liked Nintendo, not people who liked Nintendo or liked motion gaming.



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DonFerrari said:
steverhcp02 said:

I don't understand your logic. I am not downplaying anything. All I am saying is youre taking a month where there is one clear cut exclusive game thats old a ton and extrapolating it against other consoles. It's just not a fair comparison to make on a larger scale.

I'm thoroughly impressed with TLOU:R sales but  tooting the horn about comparing gross sales across consoles in light of a single titles dwarfing software does not provide a fair comparison.


I didn't said you were downplaying. Just that to consider a sole game tipping the balance so much that all other softwares on both concorrents and the own platform are dwarves isn't accurate.

But it is a fact that it did. One game sold so much that it inflated the sales of a single console. This can't be ignored when youre talking about comparing software sales across multiple consoles. The fact it is a single title, remaster is irrelavent to the discussion. One title vastly sold a lot of copies and is only on one console, it will skew the numbers for the month dramatically. that is all. I don't understand what is being argued here.



steverhcp02 said:
DonFerrari said:
steverhcp02 said:

I don't understand your logic. I am not downplaying anything. All I am saying is youre taking a month where there is one clear cut exclusive game thats old a ton and extrapolating it against other consoles. It's just not a fair comparison to make on a larger scale.

I'm thoroughly impressed with TLOU:R sales but  tooting the horn about comparing gross sales across consoles in light of a single titles dwarfing software does not provide a fair comparison.


I didn't said you were downplaying. Just that to consider a sole game tipping the balance so much that all other softwares on both concorrents and the own platform are dwarves isn't accurate.

But it is a fact that it did. One game sold so much that it inflated the sales of a single console. This can't be ignored when youre talking about comparing software sales across multiple consoles. The fact it is a single title, remaster is irrelavent to the discussion. One title vastly sold a lot of copies and is only on one console, it will skew the numbers for the month dramatically. that is all. I don't understand what is being argued here.


What is being argued is that TLOUR didn't sold by itself the same as Mk8 and all other SKU in MS and Ninty portfolio... it probably weighted for like 10% of sales, maybe 20%.. but that doesn't make all others dwarves or Sony 50% marketshare in SW irrelevant.



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Very low numbers, KArt seems did not do very much.

NDp is a true test of a bump, has fallen fast. Maybe no new baseline just a slow descent.

wheres the rest of the numbers ?



BeElite said:
Very low numbers, KArt seems did not do very much.

NDp is a true test of a bump, has fallen fast. Maybe no new baseline just a slow descent.

wheres the rest of the numbers ?


Kart as in SW sales? or do you mean HW sales for WiiU?



tbone51 said:
BeElite said:
Very low numbers, KArt seems did not do very much.

NDp is a true test of a bump, has fallen fast. Maybe no new baseline just a slow descent.

wheres the rest of the numbers ?


Kart as in SW sales? or do you mean HW sales for WiiU?


clealry wiiu sales bump.



tbone51 said:
BeElite said:
Very low numbers, KArt seems did not do very much.

NDp is a true test of a bump, has fallen fast. Maybe no new baseline just a slow descent.

wheres the rest of the numbers ?


Kart as in SW sales? or do you mean HW sales for WiiU?

he means hardware



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(Lost)Bet with kinisking: I say Ps4 will win April NPD while he says Xbox One will win it; winner gets 1 week of avatar control.

Raichu's First Series:

First RPG?

First Fighter?

First Racer?

First Shooter?

First MMO?

First Horror?

Official Ni No Kuni Fanboy:

Familiars Captured:37

Game Beaten: 2 times almost

Times I got teary during some scenes: 3

DonFerrari said:
steverhcp02 said:
DonFerrari said:
steverhcp02 said:

I don't understand your logic. I am not downplaying anything. All I am saying is youre taking a month where there is one clear cut exclusive game thats old a ton and extrapolating it against other consoles. It's just not a fair comparison to make on a larger scale.

I'm thoroughly impressed with TLOU:R sales but  tooting the horn about comparing gross sales across consoles in light of a single titles dwarfing software does not provide a fair comparison.


I didn't said you were downplaying. Just that to consider a sole game tipping the balance so much that all other softwares on both concorrents and the own platform are dwarves isn't accurate.

But it is a fact that it did. One game sold so much that it inflated the sales of a single console. This can't be ignored when youre talking about comparing software sales across multiple consoles. The fact it is a single title, remaster is irrelavent to the discussion. One title vastly sold a lot of copies and is only on one console, it will skew the numbers for the month dramatically. that is all. I don't understand what is being argued here.


What is being argued is that TLOUR didn't sold by itself the same as Mk8 and all other SKU in MS and Ninty portfolio... it probably weighted for like 10% of sales, maybe 20%.. but that doesn't make all others dwarves or Sony 50% marketshare in SW irrelevant.

So you agree. But I imagine everyone arguing with me is somehow offended I didnt do a dance and taunt people passive aggressively or something? I never used the word irrelevent either. Why does every discussion have to be this dramatic all-or-nothing with us or against us battle here?