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PullusPardus on 29 July 2014
pokoko said:
I don't even know what I just read, to be honest. It just sounded like a rant without much in the way of fact. Just "this is fucking stupid" and "that is fucking stupid." The tone was really childish.

I guess the massive jump in RAM isn't very meaningful, huh? Darn.


TL;DR 

  • Next Gen consoles = Not actually technically advanced at all
  • Buy them for games, not for graphics or you will be disappointed
  • never buy a game for the graphics because its not worth it, learn from Watch Dogs
  • Sony and Microsoft try their hardest to make them look "powerful" but they are not, so just stop with the 1080p / 60 FPS otherwise all games will basically be tech demos like Crysis and we all end up playing shitty games.
  • They made PS4 / XB1 to be easier to develop for, NOT to advance gaming as a medium, hence why indie developers are taking over, they're trying to attract mobile developers because they make better profit from them.
Is it easier to understand that way? 


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Mr.Playstation on 29 July 2014
PullusPardus said:

 

Okay this isn't "PC Is better" this is just how much "Next Gen" are "PS4/XB1" consoles are?

I am really tired of explaining how underpowered those two consoles are, you as a console gamer should not buy these consoles for their graphics (actually don't buy anything for graphics thats just stupid), because they are not really much technically advanced compared to PS3 / Xbox 360, and they're much closer to WiiU than you think, the difference is that Wii U doesn't use PC architecture so thats why porting it on there is hard (not really hard compared to PS3 but why make an effort when its so easier to port it on PS4/XB1) , This is why games like Arkham Knight are "next gen exclusive" it has NOTHING to do with "dumbed down for last gen" thats the most idiotic statement ever , its just that they don't want to bother porting them on PS3/Xbox 360 because those are "Hard" to port on, think of it like this , PS3 /360 is like re-writing a text file made on Notepad to re-publish it using a typewriter on paper , however on PS4/XB1 those consoles are made by the same thing the PC was made of, so instead of using a typewriter and publishing it on paper, you can just "copy" the whole text file and "paste" it on both consoles, INSTANT PROFIT ! , you can also try to persuade previous console owners that "ohhh this is next gen!" and they will just buy into it easily, and now you have a bigger cash cow filled with bullshit to conter the mobile phone market

Sony and Microsoft DID NOT MAKE THESE to be "next gen" they made them to be "Easier to develop on" to attract indie developers and mobile developers, they made it PC architect to make games easily ported from Steam to their consoles, arguing about how much more powerful one is to the other and then showing P.R bullshit said by Sony and Microsoft as an argument is just fucking stupid , no offense, they want you to warrant a purchase but you're not getting "Next Gen graphics!!!" you're getting "Easier to develop on" consoles, now you go on and talk about AAAAAAAA (infinite As) game development you don't really understand that AAA is what they are trying to AVOID here, as they are trying to lose less and earn more this time around, they're not trying to push game development at all, and thanks to PR bullshit you are getting sucked into the hype of "next gen" 

So make yourselves a favor and buy the consoles to play games not argue about graphics, and if you REALLY REAAAAAAAAAALLYY want to have "Dem graphix" (not worth it since most games that are released by big studios suck to be honest) then just get yourself a PC and enjoy wasting your money on crap like Watch Dogs. 

1. First of all both the Xbox one and Ps4 are stronger then the Wii u. For the last two gens Nintendo has made consoles which graphically would have been superior in previous gens but lack the power in the current gen.

 

2. Why did you state that watchdogs was "crap" , many people like hating on AA.... games for no reason, yet indies are seen perfect even though most Indies are horrible except a select few such as journey and super meat boy.

 

Overall you made a good article. Tried to contradict you on the next gen point but honestly you are right.

 



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Raziel123 on 29 July 2014
PullusPardus said:


TL;DR 

 

  • Wii U propaganda
  • repeat
  • etc
  • you get the point 

 


Ok. I'd tell you it's best for you to enjoy your Wii U instead of wasting your time like this but..that's your decision



Intrinsic on 29 July 2014

Besides, that video is from Linus tech tips???? Thats like walking into a SONY PLAYSTATION only store and asking for console purchasing advice.

Just for the PC.



Mr Khan on 29 July 2014

Pullus Pardus is not a particular fan of Wii U or Nintendo, folks. You're barking up the wrong tree here.



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bubblegamer on 29 July 2014

This sounds more like propoganda than an informing article. This is what you get when fanboys see themselves as "journalists" and "bloggers"

 

User was warned for this post - Viper.



Raziel123 on 29 July 2014
Mr Khan said:
Pullus Pardus is not a particular fan of Wii U or Nintendo, folks. You're barking up the wrong tree here.


Clearly he is. But then, so are you, so I'm not surprised to see you defending him.



walsufnir on 29 July 2014

"because they are not really much technically advanced compared to PS3 / Xbox 360, and they're much closer to WiiU than you think, the difference is that Wii U doesn't use PC architecture so thats why porting it on there is hard"

There is so much wrong in these few words, that I couldn't go on reading further.



vivster on 29 July 2014

A lot of bullshit arguments in this. Clearly by one of those master race guys.
As a PC owner and someone who is usually pretty sensitive to graphics issues I say that the best next gen graphics are easily comparable to current PC games. PC guys are focusing too much on the console hardware and ignoring that it can be a lot better utilized in consoles than in PCs where a lot of the power is lost in between.

But again. There is no PC vs Console issue. It's both or no argument.



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PullusPardus on 29 July 2014
Raziel123 said:

All i'm seeing here is Wii U propaganda
Saying things don't make them true you know

This whole "jump is smaller" thing is nonsense. You can't take the consoles and just place them next to current PCs. This gen the jump is bigger, you know why? Because last gen lasted too long. The consoles were last year more outdated than the other gen ever was. THAT's how you measure a generational jump.

is it because of my picture? I had it awhile ago and don't bother removing it, I'm not a Nintendo fanboy. 

Jump is smaller not because PS3 is outdated, because PS4 is already very outdated compared to current PC market.

its not the PS3's fault its the PS4 that came way too early and is very underpowered, the saving grace is not that its more powerful , but that it is easier to develop on, is that enough to make a new console for? 

the issue here is that people are expecting too much from PS4 when the reality is that it is very outdated , 450 GTX is about 5 years old and still outperformed the PS4, your laptop probably has a better GPU than a 450 (if you bought it in 2012 or after at least)