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DonFerrari on 03 May 2014

Well some people are in favour of equalness, just when their company of choice is being beaten.

Never saw a MS supporter complaining about how much windows dominate the industrie. But they complain about bing not having much share.



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VanceIX on 03 May 2014
EricFabian said:
greencactaur said:
I didn't read your entire post because i'm to stupid :P, but as long as theres someone in the lead IE Sony -cough- the other companies will try to out due them with their own type of innovation.


I don't agree. Wii was the leader last gen and PS4 is just the same of PS3 with more power.

The Wii fell apart after its first few years, when much of its userbase migrated to mobile phone. 

Sony learned from that, neither Microsoft or Nintendo did. And now they will due to Sony taking over the market, and in return they will put out less gimmicky hardware (hopefully).



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EricFabian on 03 May 2014
VanceIX said:

The Wii fell apart after its first few years, when much of its userbase migrated to mobile phone. 

Sony learned from that, neither Microsoft or Nintendo did. And now they will due to Sony taking over the market, and in return they will put out less gimmicky hardware (hopefully).


like Vita?



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VanceIX on 03 May 2014
EricFabian said:
VanceIX said:

The Wii fell apart after its first few years, when much of its userbase migrated to mobile phone. 

Sony learned from that, neither Microsoft or Nintendo did. And now they will due to Sony taking over the market, and in return they will put out less gimmicky hardware (hopefully).


like Vita?

Vita failed due to mobile markets destroying the handheld market. Maybe Sony will learn from this and adapt their next system for the market, or they will drop out completely.



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FromDK on 03 May 2014
VanceIX said:
EricFabian said:
greencactaur said:
I didn't read your entire post because i'm to stupid :P, but as long as theres someone in the lead IE Sony -cough- the other companies will try to out due them with their own type of innovation.


I don't agree. Wii was the leader last gen and PS4 is just the same of PS3 with more power.

The Wii fell apart after its first few years, when much of its userbase migrated to mobile phone. 

Sony learned from that, neither Microsoft or Nintendo did. And now they will due to Sony taking over the market, and in return they will put out less gimmicky hardware (hopefully).


Now it's you who trash talk..

First wii "fell apart" the last years.. They had more good than "bad" years..

And Sony made the "touch" pad controller for ps4.. (meaning they also tried some new "gimmick")

Finally do not say ps4 will destroy and "talking over the market" like its 100% sure.. we still have to see that. (last gen all 3 had time in the sun.. wii most and won the gen.. but still both 360 and ps3 had time where they sold most)

So it actully sounds like you don't know what "competition" means :)



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VanceIX on 03 May 2014
FromDK said:
VanceIX said:
EricFabian said:
greencactaur said:
I didn't read your entire post because i'm to stupid :P, but as long as theres someone in the lead IE Sony -cough- the other companies will try to out due them with their own type of innovation.


I don't agree. Wii was the leader last gen and PS4 is just the same of PS3 with more power.

The Wii fell apart after its first few years, when much of its userbase migrated to mobile phone. 

Sony learned from that, neither Microsoft or Nintendo did. And now they will due to Sony taking over the market, and in return they will put out less gimmicky hardware (hopefully).


Now it's you who trash talk..

First wii "fell apart" the last years.. They had more good than "bad" years..

And Sony made the "touch" pad controller for ps4.. (meaning they also tried some new "gimmick")

Finally do not say ps4 will destroy and "talking over the market" like its 100% sure.. we still have to see that. (last gen all 3 had time in the sun.. wii most and won the gen.. but still both 360 and ps3 had time where they sold most)

So it actully sounds like you don't know what "competition" means :)

Um... I don't even know where to begin.

First off, I'm sorry if I sounded like I was trash talking. In no ways was I implying that the Wii was terrible (I own a Wii and a Wii U, for Pete's sake), just that it fell off the face of the planet after its appeal wore off. The last three or four years have belonged to the PS3 and 360, because the novelty factor of motion controls wore off.

I didn't say the PS4 would "destroy", but I did say it will take over the market, i.e it would be the dominating force, which it has been so far and looks like it will continue to be. PS4 has all the advantages that the PS3 didn't and the PS3 still managed to keep up with the 360, atm it looks highly likely that the PS4 will dominate in sales. Just a prediction, but that's what we do here. Predict sales and stuff.

The touchpad is a gimmick, but it is a harmless one, as it dosen't cost Sony anything really if it dosen't take off, but it could be kinda useful in some games. It's nothing like the Kinect or the tablet, which are essential parts of Xbone and Wii U gaming that Nintendo and Microsoft are betting on to differentiate themselves. 

And if I don't know the meaning of competition, feel free to enlighten me. 



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Chasesdaddy84 on 03 May 2014

Hm... I didn't think I was on the same page and then I read the OP... You make some damn good points and back it up with some easy to understand examples. I kinda totally agree with you. After reading it I realized you pretty much summed up how I feel also.. I just didn't realize I felt that way. If that makes sense.



VanceIX on 03 May 2014
Chasesdaddy84 said:
Hm... I didn't think I was on the same page and then I read the OP... You make some damn good points and back it up with some easy to understand examples. I kinda totally agree with you. After reading it I realized you pretty much summed up how I feel also.. I just didn't realize I felt that way. If that makes sense.

Thanks, it was something I only realized recently myself. Just wanted to express it in words :P



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DialgaMarine on 03 May 2014

People may hate this statement, but it's the truth. The industry is at it's best when Sony and the PS are on top.



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FromDK on 03 May 2014
FromDK said:
VanceIX said:

 


Now it's you who trash talk..

First wii "fell apart" the last years.. They had more good than "bad" years..

And Sony made the "touch" pad controller for ps4.. (meaning they also tried some new "gimmick")

Finally do not say ps4 will destroy and "talking over the market" like its 100% sure.. we still have to see that. (last gen all 3 had time in the sun.. wii most and won the gen.. but still both 360 and ps3 had time where they sold most)

So it actully sounds like you don't know what "competition" means :)

Um... I don't even know where to begin.

First off, I'm sorry if I sounded like I was trash talking. In no ways was I implying that the Wii was terrible (I own a Wii and a Wii U, for Pete's sake), just that it fell off the face of the planet after its appeal wore off. The last three or four years have belonged to the PS3 and 360, because the novelty factor of motion controls wore off.

I didn't say the PS4 would "destroy", but I did say it will take over the market, i.e it would be the dominating force, which it has been so far and looks like it will continue to be. PS4 has all the advantages that the PS3 didn't and the PS3 still managed to keep up with the 360, atm it looks highly likely that the PS4 will dominate in sales. Just a prediction, but that's what we do here. Predict sales and stuff.

The touchpad is a gimmick, but it is a harmless one, as it dosen't cost Sony anything really if it dosen't take off, but it could be kinda useful in some games. It's nothing like the Kinect or the tablet, which are essential parts of Xbone and Wii U gaming that Nintendo and Microsoft are betting on to differentiate themselves. 

And if I don't know the meaning of competition, feel free to enlighten me. 

It's ok.. :) just saying that wii was in very good shape.. (and it was in most of the gen.. and yes ps360 spilt the last 3 years between them.. ps3 a litle better and also sold more than 360 totally agree.. wii won) Next gen :)

And all i say is.. ps4 has good momemtum at the movment.. but that does not mean they will have the best momemtum in 2015-2020.. that we have to see.. and looking at last gen. we can tell that no one can tell the future.. So i find it. alitle odd to say it like it's 100% sure.. thats all. but yes ps4 looks strong now.. but nobody knows what console the casuales are gonna choose.. (by casuals i mean normal video game player who look at price and games before brand)

I like the touchpad on ps4 controller.. i'm all for "gimmicks" (but i hate the word.. it sound like it's shit.. (remember when touch and gyro was gimmick.. heck even analog and rumble was gimmick.. just becourse it's new)

And what i meant by the "competition" thing is just.. don't say things like they can't chance.. it's the hole point of competition.. And both nintendo and MS can (and will) compete in this gen to..

But this is just "gamer love" (and if you read my post one the first page, i also give you absolut right.. competition is a good thing) Good day :)

(i'm danish and have to sleep.. so sorry for any misspelling)